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THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
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Trump wants to meet with Putin alone, with no other aides present on either side, in Helsinki this month. That means no note-takers, witnesses, or official record.
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wcmagumba
(2,892 posts)and a traitor!
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gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The chances are far better that the Lakers will win the NBA title next year (Spoiler alert: they won't make it out of the second round if they qualify for the playoffs).
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Knowing how corrupt and evil the two of them are, it is likely to be just the opposite. Trump is just angling for some kind of "deal" that will bail him out of his personal financial problems and he's willing to sell out our country to get it.
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They could give a shit about humanity. They only care about enriching themselves and consolidating power. Peace is not on the agenda, I assure you. Putin is using Trump to destabilize western Europe AND the US. If anything, it will create more war and destruction.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)This isn't Obama / Gorbachev, or even Reagan / Gorbachev, or Nixon / Mao.
I can't believe you even have to ask "What makes you think it wouldn't"
Trump is using the trope that its better to be friends than enemies, better to get along than fight. (But only with brutal authoritarian regimes not allies) That is just a clever mask for him to enrich himself and his family, and Putin get's the same deal as well when we lift sanctions. It is about a meeting to share information, some top level top secrets, whatever he has to do to get a hotel in Moscow.
One may say, "well....whatever works!" Two billionaires and their billionaire class of oligarchs dividing up the rest of the worlds riches and properties for themselves in subversive ways. At least they are not ordering nuclear strikes. But meanwhile, no stoppage of free wheel spending on the military or nuclear weapons. And maybe more important, no criticism by either towards the other about draconian policies against their own peoples, rights, and freedoms. It will be how to coordinate their businesses to avoid paying taxes, to avoid police interference, and to stamp out climate regulations, and freedom of the press, social spending, etc... in order for both to remain in power. How each other can help the other in furthering a world fascist order with them at the helm. The opposite of peace.
edit: I guess the newbie was escorted out. Sometimes I think we are too rash on newbies. They may have been a troll, but also may have just been young or naive. What is the message when we can't even have a dialogue about a topic? It is one that I haven't seen discussed much. The way that Trump is manipulating the message with the 'on paper' acceptable premise that being friends is preferable than enemies. But how Trump is only using that to consolidate his power and create a much more gloomier world.
marble falls
(57,204 posts)Kids really like unicorns.
elias7
(4,026 posts)If you don't see red flags here, I have to ask where have been for the past two years.
What do you want for your children, more of what we've been seeing at the border?
Get effin real
PatrickforO
(14,587 posts)This is another bad decision on Trump's part. Not necessarily the meeting, but definitely the alone part. Just a bad idea.
Plus, as someone else on this particular sub-thread points out, Trump is all squishy-fuzzy when he meets disgusting dictators, but he threw a tantrum at the recent G7 summit and threw a piece of candy at Angela Merkel.
Every day a new outrage with this imbecile, eh?
brush
(53,843 posts)Why else would he even intimate that he wants to meet with no witnesses?
Fucking traitor. And if the rest of his admin. and the repugs in Congress allows this to happen they are also traitors.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)does DT speak Russian?
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,463 posts)and that's not saying much.
3catwoman3
(24,041 posts)...than Trump.
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)repeal the Magnitsky Act in his one-on-one meeting with Trump
(without aides present) at the US Russia summit in Helsinki?
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lark
(23,155 posts)It's just there will be no other Americans because drumpf is not in charge and has to hide that he's nothing more than a Putin puppet and is getting orders on how to steal the next election, who Putin wants as next SCOTUS, us leaving Syria and how he wants drumpf to destroy NATO and fuck up all liberal democracies world wide. RT will show pictures of the meeting, as they always do, but no US press will see them during the meeting itself.
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)Girard442
(6,084 posts)Conducting business with no witnesses or record, like the dictators they are.
sinkingfeeling
(51,473 posts)over top secret information.
FSogol
(45,525 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Putin needs to review trump's efforts on behalf of Mother Russia
hvn_nbr_2
(6,488 posts)And that is what Trumputin's private meetings are: status reports and performance reviews.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)they become necessary, but who'd have thought we'd need a law to keep one of our presidents from engaging in undocumented, possibly treasonous activities?
Outside a novel written to entertain, of course.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Much of which can be culled from public reporting, in any other world, to avoid the appearance of impropriety, he would demand that his meetings with Putin be memorialized.
This one? He's off acting guilty of the crime again.
When is this shitshow going to end? Please God let it end.
BlueSea
(64 posts)This cannot happen! Is there NO ONE who can stop this 1:1 that they are going to have? The entire world is watching and no one can do a thing about it? Seriously?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/3/1777756/-Trump-wants-no-historical-record-of-his-opening-talks-with-Putin-at-summit
dhol82
(9,353 posts)how is it that the whole freaking congress cant pull their shit together and stop this?
Appalling!
rickford66
(5,528 posts)You think Trump would frisk him for a wire ?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Putin would come out as the more credible and reliable source in a conversation with an American president?
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)UTUSN
(70,740 posts)ornotna
(10,807 posts)But the CIA must insist that he wear Maxwell Smart's shoes.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)It sure as hell raises more suspicions than it quells.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Boy did that stink.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)after a decade on Republicans talking about Bill's dick and making up various bizarre theories about her, she stayed in the game.
I don't agree with her on some policies, but she is tough.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)that's understandable since trump dumper wouldn't want anyone to hear him getting his marching orders, among other things, from his boss.
Freethinker65
(10,048 posts)What could possibly go wrong?
I seem to remember when Trump met with Russian Nationals in the Oval Office he gave out information that was considered classified. Of course the excuse was, once Trump blurts something out because he is President, the information is deemed no longer classified or some bullshit like that.
If I were Putin, I would tape every word of it and add it to the kompromat they already have on Trump.
Dan
(3,579 posts)tavernier
(12,400 posts)But Putins got the money.
Augiedog
(2,548 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)Corrected: what a dangerous fool - or what a malignant traitor - depending on one's view. Not much room for any other assessment.
AdamGG
(1,294 posts)They're not mutually exclusive.
All seem to be in play.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Nooooooooooooo!!!
Butterflylady
(3,547 posts)doesn't want anyone to see him kissing Putin's ass, literally that is.
janx
(24,128 posts)They will need at least one.
SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)He also speaks fluent German, from his days with KGB in East Germany. Yet he insists on using an interpreter when in public. I heard Putin thinks being seen speaking to another leader in that leader's language is a sign of weakness and submission.
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)AdamGG
(1,294 posts)It's too bad Mueller can't get a hidden microphone in that meeting. It's more suspicious than the meeting room in John Gotti's social club and the stakes are far higher.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)What's he planning on using, sign language? Even that would be tricky.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Russian President Vladimir Putin may have been praising Donald Trumps listening skills last week but on Monday, his own abilities as a good speaker were receiving plaudits. Putins English, seldom heard by western audiences, is good enough to correct his translators, according to the man hired to speak on Putins behalf.
In free discourse, at the sidelines of summits, he often speaks in English by himself, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told the state-run Rossiya 1 television channel on Monday, talking about how Putin approached other leaders at the G20 summit. But during negotiations and when he is conducting an official meeting, of course he communicates, through a translator.
However he practically understands English completely and sometimes even corrects the translators, Peskov said. A translator will always have a crisis moment. I worked as a translator at a high level myself, which is why I am familiar with the stress of it.
http://www.newsweek.com/does-putin-speak-english-kremlin-634048
erronis
(15,328 posts)with the KGB agent inserting a steel stallion way up the patient's derriere. There may be screams and blood but in the end the patient will be much more controllable.
calimary
(81,466 posts)Gotta pick up his next marching orders from his boss. It wouldnt be cool to have anybody else around.
Dr Vegas
(456 posts)didn't Bette Midler tweet about this last week?
lapfog_1
(29,223 posts)Orders from Mordor!
But why use the Palantir when you can just fly over to Helsinki and meet your master?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)and Putin knows this, too. Nothing they say in this meeting is binding, because nothing with Trump is binding.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)With no official record to trip him up he can make all kinds of wild claims with the American people and who can dispute it. Trust but verify is now inoperable.
librechik
(30,676 posts)spanone
(135,873 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Surely Trumpenfuerhrer knows no Russian and I read somewhere earlier today that Vlad doesn't know much English.