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TeamPooka

(24,237 posts)
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:58 AM Jul 2018

Trump's supporters are willing to take an economic hit as long as there are liberal tears flowing

That was the consensus of several articles I read today.
This trade war is directed targeted at the red states by China etc.
They are going to put the hurt on trump's base big time.

Soybeans alone are already taking a hit in the hundreds of millions and the farmers are cool with it as long as we are so angry.

Another article talked about a plant that depended on steel and may have to layoff more hundreds, after just laying off people this week and everyone in the town that didn't lose their job yet was like "I'm cool with it."

Yeah, I've been angry about a lot Trump does but this time the tears running down my face are from laughter.
I'm going to keep laughing too. These people are idiots.

One thing I'm not going to waste my anger on is saving them.
We can focus on the kids taken from their parents, women's rights, civil rights, etc, but red state voters are not on my list.

We'll get around to saving them when we're back in power and fixing the giant economic collapse that the Republicans created, like they do every time they hold power in this country, like we do every time.

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Trump's supporters are willing to take an economic hit as long as there are liberal tears flowing (Original Post) TeamPooka Jul 2018 OP
A lot of it is cluelessness and a sense that nothing will happen to them, imo. Oneironaut Jul 2018 #1
"They are okay with other people being hurt." Says it all. n/ t Beartracks Jul 2018 #3
Believe Deplorables at your peril. Sneederbunk Jul 2018 #36
When Trump throws them under the bus like he did to Michael Cohn lunatica Jul 2018 #2
Cutting off their noses to spite their own faces. n/t NEOBuckeye Jul 2018 #4
Mexico is buying corn SCVDem Jul 2018 #5
And China is now buying soy beans from Russia. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #10
I heard about that. Helps him with hard currency and staves off sanctions effects. TeamPooka Jul 2018 #47
And you can't argue with the MAGA cult either. Initech Jul 2018 #6
They're ready to destroy their lives and childrens' future just to say fuck you to the world. chowder66 Jul 2018 #7
I think they've long ago lost hope and become passive. This is a circus while they burn it all down. nolabear Jul 2018 #38
They've had good, if not privileged, lives in the 20th/21st Century and they hate that. TeamPooka Jul 2018 #48
As long as he bans abortion, they are fine RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #8
The GOP sure knows how to pick the pockets of its base. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #9
Indeed--and their base loves it DFW Jul 2018 #13
We'll get around to saving them when we're back in power rpannier Jul 2018 #11
A.A. calls this "reaching the bottom." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2018 #12
The only reason we are NOT headed toward a situation like the 1932 election DFW Jul 2018 #14
Unfortunately, the Repugs are hell-bent on eliminating every one of those safeguards. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2018 #20
Red areas across America are hollowing out, have been for years. Blue_true Jul 2018 #44
They are the rugged individualists so they won't need our help. :) TeamPooka Jul 2018 #15
The articles online may be saying this but I live in the heart of Trumpland (SW Ohio) airmid Jul 2018 #16
Jin the crowd. True Blue American Jul 2018 #18
Thank you for that perspective. Squinch Jul 2018 #23
they drank their koolaid. pansypoo53219 Jul 2018 #17
My tears are flowing... from laughter. F**k them all. kysrsoze Jul 2018 #19
I have to say I really appreciate the care foreign governments are taking to target Trumphumpers. Vinca Jul 2018 #21
They are smart doing it this way. Smarter than trump obviously. TeamPooka Jul 2018 #43
They will take the economic hit empedocles Jul 2018 #22
their tune will change as they lose all they own and end up on the streets beachbum bob Jul 2018 #24
When cuts come for them, they'll blame immigrants and minorities ck4829 Jul 2018 #25
Yes, equally miserable is unacceptable Zambero Jul 2018 #31
That is what will happen. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #27
Having taken an economic 'hit' in 08, we will see how they feel when jobs and houses are lost. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #26
When they lose that farm I wonder how they'll find a way to blame Obama TeamPooka Jul 2018 #40
I am sure that they will blame President Obama, Trump absolutely can't do wrong to them. Blue_true Jul 2018 #45
or it will be a wake up call...like in 08. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #50
They Are Willingly Cutting Off Their Noses to Spite Their Faces dlk Jul 2018 #28
The economic hits target them, not us mainer Jul 2018 #29
Well then, let them take that hit Zambero Jul 2018 #30
The feds are going to ease their pain. Five billion dollars worth. secondwind Jul 2018 #32
Democrats should block the money if it doesn't come with cuts to services in red areas. Blue_true Jul 2018 #46
Fuck them. They enabled a monster that is hurting millions of innocent people dalton99a Jul 2018 #33
And vice versa egduj Jul 2018 #34
Then by all means, let them take that hit Downtown Hound Jul 2018 #35
This is how it's been for a while with Republican voters Thrill Jul 2018 #37
Lyndon said it best when he said.... muntrv Jul 2018 #39
word TeamPooka Jul 2018 #41
My general view on red voters. Blue_true Jul 2018 #42
Somebody forgot to tell them that with a murder suicide the murder comes first. nt Snotcicles Jul 2018 #49
This is why trump won't abandon his racism and bigotry. As long as he is hateful Hoyt Jul 2018 #51

Oneironaut

(5,515 posts)
1. A lot of it is cluelessness and a sense that nothing will happen to them, imo.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:02 AM
Jul 2018

They're only ok with it because they don't think it will effect them. They assume that the economic impact will be no big deal, and nothing will change with their current standard of living. They're okay with other people being hurt, though.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. When Trump throws them under the bus like he did to Michael Cohn
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:09 AM
Jul 2018

they’ll become believers. But it will take time, just like it has with Cohn.

They’ll learn just how important government is in their lives.

SunSeeker

(51,607 posts)
10. And China is now buying soy beans from Russia.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:06 AM
Jul 2018

Another win for Putin.

Is there ANYTHING Trump does that isn't a win for Putin?

Initech

(100,091 posts)
6. And you can't argue with the MAGA cult either.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:55 AM
Jul 2018

They can't stand being told Obama was right about anything. It sucks. You might as well be talking to a brick wall.

chowder66

(9,074 posts)
7. They're ready to destroy their lives and childrens' future just to say fuck you to the world.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:58 AM
Jul 2018

The will give up their jobs, give up their health, give up their security, give up their children, give up their souls and try to tear down everyone along with it because they must hate their lives so much that they cannot tolerate anyone else around them.

If they can't make anything better or if no one does it for them then all they have is the ravings of a madman and that feeds the anger and fear that they refuse to do anything about in their own lives and everyone else must pay-and-pay-and-pay for it.

I'd have more compassion for them if they could ever face the truth and realize that the world is a much better place when people care for one another.

What misery it must be to be a Trump zealot.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
38. I think they've long ago lost hope and become passive. This is a circus while they burn it all down.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jul 2018

DFW

(54,420 posts)
13. Indeed--and their base loves it
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:21 AM
Jul 2018

How many super-rich Televangelists (or their followers) do you imagine are Democrats?

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
11. We'll get around to saving them when we're back in power
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:44 AM
Jul 2018

To borrow from Airplane the Movie
They knew the risks, I say let them crash
If they go under, leave them. They have no problems doing it to others. The biggest mistake the left has made for the last 4+ decades is helping them because they're part of us (taking the high road, crap). Until they go under and are forced to reap what they sow, they're never gonna get it

12. A.A. calls this "reaching the bottom."
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:10 AM
Jul 2018

As long as someone (us) is there to bail them out, they'll keep doing the same destructive behavior. They need to face the cold, hard reality of their actions. It's hard -- no one wants to see another person suffer (except maybe Trump, Dubya, Rumsfeld and Cheney), but we have to recognize that letting them bottom out is the best situation for all of us.

As long as we clean up their messes -- economic, environmental, sociological, etc. -- they'll keep doing the same shit.

DFW

(54,420 posts)
14. The only reason we are NOT headed toward a situation like the 1932 election
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:23 AM
Jul 2018

Is because of social safeguards put in place BECAUSE of the result of the 1932 election.

20. Unfortunately, the Repugs are hell-bent on eliminating every one of those safeguards.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 05:38 AM
Jul 2018

They hate FDR almost as much as they hate Obama.

November can't come too soon.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. Red areas across America are hollowing out, have been for years.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:19 PM
Jul 2018

Their hatred for the "elites" come from their resentment to being economically left behind. In my region of Florida, the economically vibrant cities are the blue ones. My city is mildly red, the nearest blue city is at least 1.5 times richer. My city is becoming more purple and it shows, the nearest blue city used to be more than 2 times richer.

I favor allowing red areas to collapse, the majority of voters in those places make decisions that indicate they prefer economic collapse and no services. Stop using funds collected in cities and surburbs to build roads, utilities, Internet into those places, let the rugged individualism that they insist they have get them through.

airmid

(500 posts)
16. The articles online may be saying this but I live in the heart of Trumpland (SW Ohio)
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:40 AM
Jul 2018

in the midst of rural farms. We rent 50 acres to a farmer and he is flipping out (he did not vote Trump). And while not all the farmers here voted Trump, most did. And they are afraid...all of them. A half dozen or so have already converted to cattle but those locked into contracts are totally screwed and they know it. Two big farm auctions yesterday in this area as well...mostly dairy equipment and big farm equipment.

So...you can not focus on saving them even though many are not Republican but just remember that there will be little left to save anyway. Big Ag will move in and buy all this land for next to nothing when it all collapses and then they will be in firm control of our food supply. This is a destruction made by man for a purpose. What's left of the family farms will be gone. So far the CSA'a are hanging in but with mounds of new paperwork (Trump is not deregulating for these small farms) and growing fees, they will not be far behind.

And all this will come home to roost in food prices.

I am angry as hell but I will not forget the many folks here who did not vote for this. I can't use a wide brush. And I will bet a whole lot of those gloating online aren't really who they say they are because the farmers I know have little time for online bitching.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
18. Jin the crowd.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 04:04 AM
Jul 2018

I am right here with you in the midst of soybean farms. All the way to Indiana. The whole area is Republican.

I do know that just once the voters all up and down the river voted Democrat, shocking every one for the first time in 100 years. Just a few years ago. Let us see how they feel by November.

The tariffs will have really kicked in again. In Marysville the higher steel prices. The trains that unloaded auto parts, filled them with soy beans to ship back. That will be hurting them all

The Cinncinnatti/ Dayton corridor is now booming. But it is predicted that 59% of Ohio products are exports and will be affected.

kysrsoze

(6,022 posts)
19. My tears are flowing... from laughter. F**k them all.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 04:46 AM
Jul 2018

We’ll see how these idiots feel when they can’t pay their bills. Unfortunately so many others will suffer as well.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
21. I have to say I really appreciate the care foreign governments are taking to target Trumphumpers.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 05:59 AM
Jul 2018

I imagine when the libtards descend on their towns to attend the foreclosure auctions, they'll regret belonging to the cult.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
24. their tune will change as they lose all they own and end up on the streets
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 07:06 AM
Jul 2018

with no govt programs to assist...that fucking karma again

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
31. Yes, equally miserable is unacceptable
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:45 AM
Jul 2018

Deplorables need someone to look down on, not to join ranks with if and when misfortune strikes.

Demsrule86

(68,629 posts)
26. Having taken an economic 'hit' in 08, we will see how they feel when jobs and houses are lost.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:56 AM
Jul 2018

They could lose family farms that have been in the family for years...economic hardship becomes old quickly...easy to say this tough to live through it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
45. I am sure that they will blame President Obama, Trump absolutely can't do wrong to them.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jul 2018

I want them to feel the bitter emptiness of seeing something that they spent years sweating and toiling for being sold off for a few pennies on the dollar. I want them to try to look for a job in their fifties with farming as their only skill. Fuck them. They don't care about anyone else, why should anyone care about them?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. Democrats should block the money if it doesn't come with cuts to services in red areas.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jul 2018

Target those bastards the way they target blue areas that face disaster and need national help. They voted for the disaster that is striking them.

egduj

(805 posts)
34. And vice versa
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 10:03 AM
Jul 2018

Next time the DOW drops a few hundred points, watch how many gleeful threads hit the greatest page.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
35. Then by all means, let them take that hit
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jul 2018

I can tell them that we will not be in much of a mood to help them WHEN we regain power.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
37. This is how it's been for a while with Republican voters
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 11:32 AM
Jul 2018

Any one that’s poor or working class that votes republican. Votes against their own best interest

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. My general view on red voters.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jul 2018

Is screw them. They despise everything that I believe in, why should I give one shit about them? When we are back in power, we should focus on helping purple and blue states (not that they need it, because most are run properly), just like Trump and republicans tried to screw blue states and cities with their tax legislation.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
51. This is why trump won't abandon his racism and bigotry. As long as he is hateful
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:00 PM
Jul 2018

to minorities, his supporters will remain, even if hurt economically.

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