However, supposedly many Harley ee's said they'd still vote for him again, even if he drove their jobs overseas. I think these asses are so well brainwashed and so very ignorant that I truly don't know what will wake them up, it seems like nothing will. Anyone who promotes caging children and who posts that they should be inside electrified cages (as many of them did), well there's just no hope for murderous idiotic pretend people like that.

They just don't know it yet

She's fully committed to dying with him in the Fuhrerbunker

brainwashed bunkeretts

I think at this point he's about as damaged as he's going to be. He isn't going to sink much further because some people will support him no matter what. He's sunk down to the level where they're his only reliable support. It's now up to us to get out the vote and not screw this up. If we can do that, he's toast in 2020, and we might even win back the House.

"Natural consequences" is a great thing. Some will definitely work out they've been snookered and change sides. Some of them will be the community influencers and bring over others.

Some will double down and even go down with the ship. Some will just tune out. It's just as well that they stop voting or contributing, frankly.

I have no idea how this breaks down by percentage. However, we don't need many to switch, as long as election tampering is minimal.

It's unfortunate that we all have to take this medicine, rather than just the fools who bought this program.

The assumption is that everything Trump does leads to wreckage. It's good to keep in mind that it is possible, however unlikely it may seem, that some of Trump's initiatives might work. If so, his popularity will rise, and he will get credit (deservedly so). I personally think the odds of that are pretty close to zero (I'm taking that bet) but there's plenty I don't know and I know natural consequences could apply to me as well as anyone.

... for the middle class

Bengahzi

No, these idiots will never change their minds. If the Pee Tapes were shown on the evening news tonight, his popularity would go up.

Will never happen. His followers are zombies.

that will have to make the move.
His "followers" won't change - he won't quit - it will take McTurtle and Munster Ryan to make anything happen without a bombshell from Mueller.

Edited comment: I'm not sitting by the TV waiting for THAT to happen!

It's one thing to admit you were wrong, it's another thing to admit you've been swindled. People feel it's like raising your hand and announcing you're stupid and gullible.

Many victims would rather hide in a hole, or worse, double down to be victims of further cons.

There will be some who will soon be claiming that they never voted for him or supported him, and they will even con themselves into believing it.

We don't need 100% of the vote, there are more of us than them.

we need to turn out the vote if these young Hispanics and their parents register and vote, Dems will win. We need to convince them that their life here depends on them voting because it really does.

and he gave them the Court.

That's ALL they care about.

Trump makes them feel good about their situation, even while it gets worse and worse. That's as far as their analysis goes.

But we have had numerous "this will do him in" incidents in the last 3 years and haven't even made a dent in the vast majority of his minions. I've been hoping that every gaff, mistake, and complete fuck-up chips away just a few more of his blind horde, but his poll numbers remain steady.

It's embarrassing to be human. We're a stupid and vicious species.

Fool me once......shame on........shame on you......Okay, maybe he couldn't.

Second,Trump was never a great deal maker,it was his Lawyer and Book Keeper who did the work. Trump would bullshit his way into a deal and have his two flunkies clean it up. Thirdly,Trump's main Idol was PT Barnum,and he fashioned himself after him. He learned as a Kid he could Lie his way in and out of any situation.

The Guy is a self Styled Reality TV Star and the Vail is about to be ripped away exposing this Sucker to who and what he really is,a MEGA Fake.

His base doesn't care if he lies. They won't respond to logic if and when he fails them. They are not rational. Some are barely human.

Some Tepiblicans are racists and deplorables.

But a good fraction are just completely in the Fox and Limbaugh bubble of lies.

Our goal should be to pull those people out - teach them that Fox lies to them to get votes for rightwing billionaires.

Because the ONLY thing holding the president up is his false reputation. Non-rightwing media outlets are telling it like it is.

But Fox and Limbaugh are not reporting the failure of the NK meetup. Not reporting the failure of the tariffs.
In other words, Fox News is Lying to people.

If we want to get this president out, the most important thing we can do is tell all our friends and family: Fox News Lies (to get votes for rightwing billionaires).

They do NOT hear the truth!

They live in their bubble world, go to their bubble churches, and listen ONLY to their RW lying "news" sources.

They consider the truth to be lies.

I know too many of these people, people who will never admit that they've been snookered. It's just too painful. (It took the South 100 years to get over the Civil War. Some places still have reenactments - guess they're hoping for a different outcome? )

No one will ever openly admit they’ve been suckered. But they will change their views quietly. That’s what happened with Nixon.

I think and hope we are near a big crisis point for Fox where their wall of lies breaks. Let’s help push them over.

sadly he takes us with him...the folks I work for everyday...seniors disabled poor...won't have anything..SS, Medicare, Sec 8 and now won't be able to afford a single thing...

They're beyond hope.

How many of them are there? I read somewhere that the Republican party, their voters, is shrinking. Like down to 37% of the total population? Let them go off the cliff with him if that's what they want.

Into a person much like his real self.
Corrupt & incompetent, a liar, a tax dodging thief who cares more for Wall Street than humanity. The trafficker of kids via "pizzagate".


A person who misuses her Foundation,.
"Crooked Hillary" is actually, "who Trump is".

He had to reimage HRC to sell himself to the stupid who** cheered, applauded & repeated the big Lie.

That is how he has gotten by his entire life.

Trump is a professional liar, and his voters always knew that.