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Have we ever had ANY answer on where are the babies, and the girls?? (Original Post) RandomAccess Jul 2018 OP
Not really. Don't think we've stopped demanding. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #1
No malaise Jul 2018 #2
All I've seen is no for by far most and at best vague. Hortensis Jul 2018 #3
Thanks RandomAccess Jul 2018 #7
Or, have we ever had ANY answer MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #4
Well, no families are being torn apart on that one RandomAccess Jul 2018 #8
No, but the lies hiding behind them MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #10
Yes, but that's not my concern with this post RandomAccess Jul 2018 #11
Seems to me MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #13
Of course it's a concern to all RandomAccess Jul 2018 #17
"You're chiding me".......... MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #20
Okay, whatever RandomAccess Jul 2018 #21
Yeah............... MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #28
In the spirit of pizza gate Varaddem Jul 2018 #5
Well, rich folks will pay Bettie Jul 2018 #6
Betsy DeVos's charities are getting $700 per night RandomAccess Jul 2018 #9
Hostage taking is highly profitable. dalton99a Jul 2018 #12
I don't know how to say this politely Tucker08087 Jul 2018 #27
Nothing satisfactory... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #14
That is my deep concern RandomAccess Jul 2018 #19
Trump probably has the girls in dressing rooms so he can walk in on them. When you are famous... Midnight Writer Jul 2018 #15
No, and no one observing the facilities where they were are where they're at. uponit7771 Jul 2018 #16
Trump is throwing so many problems, so many horrors at us RandomAccess Jul 2018 #18
No, and we have not stopped demanding answers Hekate Jul 2018 #22
I don't hear enough from the media or Congress RandomAccess Jul 2018 #23
Good to know you are contacting your Congresscritters and writing to the media, then. Hekate Jul 2018 #24
That is PRECISELY why I asked this question - RandomAccess Jul 2018 #25
My letter tonight RandomAccess Jul 2018 #30
I've been wondering why they're now saying there are 101 children under 5, pnwmom Jul 2018 #26
years from now, we'll hear many stories about what happened to those girls in Trumps custody SummerSnow Jul 2018 #29

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. All I've seen is no for by far most and at best vague.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:43 AM
Jul 2018

I'd googled yesterday and found almost nothing beyond the old "somewhere in Texas" kind of thing, or a picture of a few girls being walked down a NY street.

A local newspaper in MI did report on a blind twelve-year-old girl who'd been trafficked (my word) to the Bethany Christian Center foster care agency there. Rep. Debbie Dingell and 3 other Democratic reps toured and saw 10 children 3-4 and one under a year, gender not mentioned. Press and pictures not allowed.



MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
13. Seems to me
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018

that the "lack of information" coming from the current administration would be a major concern for all.
Missing kids, hidden documents, lack of transparency - all are a common thread from the current regime.
Sorry for stepping on your singular focus.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
17. Of course it's a concern to all
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jul 2018

You're chiding me for apparently (not really, but apparently) not being sufficiently alarmed by the lies -- but see, I was taken aback by your apparent lack of concern for LIVES, especially vis a vis taxes.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
20. "You're chiding me"..........
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:58 PM
Jul 2018

not at all!!!!!

Your concern for the children (and mine, too, might I say), is rightfully stated - and is but one of many issues regarding the terrible direction that IQ45 is leading us.

I have 2 grandchildren - both under 2 years old. The thought of them being "taken" in the name of "whatever-the-f**k" IQ45 and the Repugs claim it to be in - leaves me in extreme anger. I can't imagine the anguish the parents and families must endure, along with the other BS that is occurring in their lives.

This is NOT the United States that I want to live in - the United States that I want to be a part of - the United States that I believe should be a model for what is best for each and every person - regardless of origin or color.

I want to be here - I want this country to be a beacon of freedom - I want it to be a "safe harbor" - and I want IQ45 and his evil-spirited people gone (that means "out of power" - not "eliminated from life&quot .

Can I be any clearer?

We're apparently on the same page/different paragraph. Let's move forward to achieve what the founding fathers wanted this country to be.

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
6. Well, rich folks will pay
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jul 2018

enormous sums to adopt babies and very young children.

Not saying it is happening, but it is definitely possible. They can make the paperwork say anything they want it to and the parents aren't in a position to object or even know where the kids are.

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
27. I don't know how to say this politely
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jul 2018

So I’m just going to say it. My son was privately adopted. White children were about $30,000 or more depending on gene pool proof. Legal and medical fees, you know. I didn’t have a requested race. Hispanic babies were about $12,000. Black babies were $8,000. My son is biracial. My legal fees were $18,000. My lawyer “joked” that he was on sale.
So yes, I bought my child, although his parents chose me and it was all open and upfront. He was premature and sickly, so if I had chosen to turn him down, his “price” would have decreased. But, based on supply and demand, I’m not sure that the reason is adoption. These people don’t want babies who are not white. I really think it’s the price of detention that they want. Cold, loveless, unending detention. It’s worse than stealing and selling kids to people who are desperate for kids. I think it’s stealing and forgetting them, letting them rot, for people desperate for more money than they need.
And, yes, the “price” based on race still sickens me, and although I paid, my child is still the greatest gift anyone has ever and could possibly give to me. The lawyer, I guess, is a predator, but that girl stood in the hospital with tears streaming down her cheeks and handed me this tiny human who instantly became my world. She is my hero, his angel, and stronger than many. And she has her own family now, on her terms, when she was ready.

Wounded Bear

(58,704 posts)
14. Nothing satisfactory...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:25 PM
Jul 2018

Girls will always be more profitable in trafficking. The market for boys is smaller.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
18. Trump is throwing so many problems, so many horrors at us
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:09 PM
Jul 2018

that it's spreading us too thin. All of us, including Congress. And/or wearing us out so we have no energy to wage the kind of wars we need to.

Hekate

(90,788 posts)
24. Good to know you are contacting your Congresscritters and writing to the media, then.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jul 2018

They do keep track.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
25. That is PRECISELY why I asked this question -
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jul 2018

so I can include it in my fax tonight.

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RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
30. My letter tonight
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:34 PM
Jul 2018

Human Rights violations and atrocities are STILL being committed against asylum-seeking families – and their children – at the border. Some of the people involved belong at the Hague.


There Was Never A Plan to Reunite Them
Records linking children to their parents have disappeared, and in some cases have been destroyed, according to two officials of the Department of Homeland Security, leaving the authorities struggling to identify connections between family members.
. . . In hundreds of cases, Customs agents deleted the initial records in which parents and children were listed together as a family with a “family identification number,” according to two officials at the Department of Homeland Security, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the process. As a result, the parents and children appeared in federal computers to have no connection to one another. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/us/migrant-children-chaos-family-separation.html


If It’s TRUMP, There’s CORRUPTION
Someone recently said: “Trump does not have ‘policies.’ He has investment strategies.” And they often involve his buddies.

These kids were sent straight to “adoption centers,” and at a premium rate:
Bethany Christian Services, an adoption center with financial ties to [Education Secretary] Betsy DeVos, has taken 81 immigrant children who were forcibly separated from their parents at the border. Most have had no contact with their families. They’re charging $700 per child per night. This isn’t foster care, this is state-sponsored kidnapping.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/06/26/bethany-christian-services-family-separation-betsy-devos/



The two largest private corrections corporations, GEO Group and CoreCivic, each gave $250,000 to Trump's inaugural festivities.
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/21/565318778/big-money-as-private-immigrant-jails-boom


Where Are the Infants - And the Girls?
Those 2 questions have never been satisfactorily answered. WHY ARE THEY NOT TELLING US? What has happened to these innocent children?

WHY is the Republican caucus not demanding answers? Why are you allowing this total lack of transparency, to include having members of Congress refused entry to any of the facilities housing the children? Why the lies and obfuscations in general? It’s been totally outrageous.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT?

If you are not PERSONALLY raising hell in
whatever committees you’re in
or to those in relevant committees
AND to the President,
then YOU ARE COMPLICIT.


SILENCE CONDONES

We need answers and transparency, we need the President to stop these
brutally harmful and illegal practices, and we need the children re-united
IMMEDIATELY.

Again:
What are you personally doing about it?

pnwmom

(108,991 posts)
26. I've been wondering why they're now saying there are 101 children under 5,
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:16 PM
Jul 2018

but reports before were that there were a couple hundred in that one Texas facility.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
29. years from now, we'll hear many stories about what happened to those girls in Trumps custody
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:59 PM
Jul 2018

...and it won't be pretty

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