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Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:10 PM Jul 2018

These 2 priests were at Trump's Montana rally! F That!




Hello @IRStaxpros these 2 were at the Montana #trump rally: Father Christopher Lebsock assigned to cathedral of St. Helena, Kevin Christofferson assigned to Polson, Ronan, and Charlo parish. Their boss is Monsignor Kevin O'Neill. Follow the LAW #TaxChurches involved in politics.
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Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
1. There was a horrible priest on FB who was a racist of the first order.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:15 PM
Jul 2018

I found out where to report him and reported him. His page was taken down rather quickly.

These people are supposed to maintain a certain degree of dignity and displaying overt racism is not dignified.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
2. They could've gone in plainclothes, as citizens. But instead...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:31 PM
Jul 2018

... they went in "uniform" which implies they are representing the Church.



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LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
3. Whose to say Russia stops with politics?
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:36 PM
Jul 2018

Russians can easily infiltrate organized religions. They already bagged the evangelicals. Move on to Catholics
Makes sense to me.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. You may be one to something. Makes a lot of sense with Roe v Wade being a big issue.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:45 PM
Jul 2018

Why not use that as a wedge to peel off Catholics. Plus if Trump nominates the female judge from that cult like group and democrats go after her too hard, the match is lit and the Russians only have to fan the flames.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
6. it's amazing
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:19 PM
Jul 2018

abortion isn't even mentioned in the bible, but you'd think it was literally the only thing God talked about...it's certainly the only thing some folks on the religious right care about.

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
7. Actually abortion is OK in the bible, as long as it is used to test a wife's loyalty to her husband
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:20 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+5%3A11-31&version=NIV

Numbers 5:11-31 New International Version (NIV)
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”


former9thward

(32,023 posts)
8. Follow what Law?
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:43 PM
Jul 2018

There is no law saying religious personnel can't participate in political events. Should the Reverend Jesse Jackson have been stopped from running for President in 1984 and 1988? What world do you live in where church people can't be at political events? Church people have been part of Democratic events since the party was founded.

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,584 posts)
11. There were 3 priests there. I saw them before Trump came on stage.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:49 PM
Jul 2018

They were down low on the stands and couldn't be seen when Trump started lying.

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
16. Yes I read that there were 4 too, after I posted this. I wonder if they are white supremacists.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jul 2018

I also emailed the heads of the Catholic church in the US, (can't remember the name) I literally tried to email the pope but you can only snail mail him.

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