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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:14 PM Jul 2018

WTF!!! WTF was a defense company doing with immigrant kids at an unlicensed center in Phoenix, AZ???

Last edited Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:10 PM - Edit history (1)

The Center for Investigative Reporting has learned that a Defense contractor detained migrant kids in vacant Phoenix office building:

A major U.S. defense contractor quietly detained dozens of immigrant children inside a vacant Phoenix office building with dark windows, no kitchen and only a few toilets during three weeks of the Trump administration’s family separation effort, Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting has learned.

Videos shot by an alarmed neighbor show children dressed in sweatsuits being led – one so young she was carried – into the 3,200-square-foot building in early June. The building is not licensed by Arizona to hold children, and the contractor, MVM Inc., has claimed publicly that it does not operate “shelters or any other type of housing” for children.

This was all being done very secretively and might not have been reported, except that a neighbor noticed:

There are new cameras on the building, extra locks on the doors and a paper shredder bin directly outside the building’s side door. Neighbor Lianna Dunlap’s videos show workers pulling up in white vans and leading dazed children into the building. When she asked questions, she said the workers responded with silence or terse answers.

“There’s been times where I drive by and I just start crying because, you know, it’s right behind my house,” said Dunlap, her voice wavering. “I don’t know and I think that’s the worst part – not knowing what’s actually going on in there and just hoping that they’re OK.”




The kids were eventually moved, as secretively as they were brought in:

Dunlap said she never saw any children leave the building until nearly three weeks after they arrived. When Dunlap tried to take video of that departure, she said workers spotted her watching from her kitchen window and blocked her view with vehicles. She said she watched children’s feet as they filed out of the building.


The Center for Investigative Reporting is doing a series on treatment of migrant children for their Reveal program on NPR radio. Check your local NPR station's listing for times.



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WTF!!! WTF was a defense company doing with immigrant kids at an unlicensed center in Phoenix, AZ??? (Original Post) LongTomH Jul 2018 OP
Child Abuse UCmeNdc Jul 2018 #1
Worse. ret5hd Jul 2018 #2
i remember a time in this country where these people would be put in jail Horse with no Name Jul 2018 #3
Horrific, mass graves are next Johnny2X2X Jul 2018 #4
+1, its the hiding that takes away the benefit of the doubt ... why hide ?!!?! uponit7771 Jul 2018 #6
Remember the little girls in New York? sarah FAILIN Jul 2018 #7
Scary thoought. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #10
That is what I am afraid of Quemado Jul 2018 #14
Many Deplorables will love it Johnny2X2X Jul 2018 #25
I agree... yuiyoshida Jul 2018 #16
i've been working regularly in Phoenix. barbtries Jul 2018 #5
I was there in May also Horse with no Name Jul 2018 #9
absolutely. barbtries Jul 2018 #12
"Defense" contractor. WTF are we becoming. We even privatize cruelty JDC Jul 2018 #8
Corporate cruelty for profit. Initech Jul 2018 #11
How much longer? orangecrush Jul 2018 #13
Direct Deposits?!1 UTUSN Jul 2018 #15
There is more oversight at Guantanemo Bay ladym55 Jul 2018 #17
Privatization is part of what is enabling these abuses. summer_in_TX Jul 2018 #18
We are n some deep shit in this country world wide wally Jul 2018 #19
Went to the company's website to see what they are all about xor Jul 2018 #20
@ $700 per head per night? fierywoman Jul 2018 #21
Probably more like $2,000... xor Jul 2018 #22
A money making torture scheme just like Himmler and Heydrich were running in Europe Elwood P Dowd Jul 2018 #23
MVM: Leghorn21 Jul 2018 #24
I can't even imagine coming to this country for a better life & then your child is taken from you. CrispyQ Jul 2018 #26

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
3. i remember a time in this country where these people would be put in jail
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jul 2018

without batting an eye.
In trumpworld.....business as usual.
Disgusting.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
4. Horrific, mass graves are next
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:28 PM
Jul 2018

We have a President who is calling human beings an infestation. We have thousands of people being rounded up and held in secret. Even members of Congress can’t get in to see detainees or the conditions they are being held in.

We have seen this too many times in history, there is no doubt that mass graves will be found. That is always what happens when leaders call people animals and hide them away. I hope we can stop this in time. The prisoner guard relationship is prone to abuses when not hidden and when leadership isn’t telling them they are guarding animals (thus excusing anything.) This is being hidden for horrible reasons, count on it.

People think it can’t happen here. It is happening here, right now. There is no other reason to hide children prisoners other than to hide atrocities being commited. No one ever had to hide prisoners and their prisons if they were humane.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
7. Remember the little girls in New York?
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jul 2018

Moved in the middle of the night. Secrets like this are never good.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
14. That is what I am afraid of
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:43 PM
Jul 2018

God forbid it to happen, but I am scared that something horrible will eventually be discovered that will shock this country.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
25. Many Deplorables will love it
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jul 2018

A significant portion of Trump voters will support it. Maybe half of them will either flat out support it without question or they'll say stuff like, "while it's regrettable that this happened, we need tough policy and it's the parents fault for putting their children in harms way."

About 25% of Trump voters want a genocide to happen in this country.

Know this, when, not if, atrocities are found to have occurred, it will 100% be Trump's fault. He's the one calling children animals and the thugs harming these children are taking their marching orders right from Trump.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
16. I agree...
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:54 PM
Jul 2018

And if mass graves are found, the people should march on the white house like the Americans marched on Germany during WW2!

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
5. i've been working regularly in Phoenix.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:37 PM
Jul 2018

in early May it was 108 degrees. the last time in June it went to 112. why are the children in sweatsuits? are they going into another icebox?

it's inconceivable what is going on here. anything we can imagine could be true. this is the trump cabal and nothing can be put past them.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
9. I was there in May also
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:51 PM
Jul 2018

I thought I was going to die.
This is going to haunt us as a country for generations.

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
12. absolutely.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jul 2018

this time we need to imprison them. everyone from nixon to reagan to gw walked away without consequence, and if that had not been true, trump never could have happened. republicans learned they were untouchable. not this time.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
17. There is more oversight at Guantanemo Bay
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:59 PM
Jul 2018

This is terrifying. They even turned away a Republican representative today.

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
18. Privatization is part of what is enabling these abuses.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:03 PM
Jul 2018

Oversight is virtually impossible. These wealthy, powerful companies are entrenched and will be hard to uproot, but that's what's needed.

xor

(1,204 posts)
20. Went to the company's website to see what they are all about
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:10 PM
Jul 2018

I notice on their careers page they seem to hire a lot of linguists, and they list legal and investigative services they provide. I personally would lean toward it being something along those lines instead of a death camp. I mean, at least until some more evidence suggests otherwise.

*The article seems to cover these facts... I should probably read before commenting.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
24. MVM:
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:21 PM
Jul 2018
MVM appears to be a massive operation:
https://www.mvminc.com/about-us/who-we-are/


When I checked their jobs page 2-3 weeks ago, there were tons of jobs available in Homestead (FL) - I didn’t know there was a detention facility there until later...did not take a screenshot, unfortunately...at any rate, here are 154 current jobs available, all over the country:
https://mvminc.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/mvmcareers

Here you will see a job listing for Homestead site, and one for McAllen (this is where the cops were called on Sen. Jeff Merkley in early June):



————————————————————————————————————————————

From last Friday (Homestead):

Republican Rep. Carlos Curbelo was denied entry into a
government facility housing child migrants.

"We fund all of their operations and all of their salaries,
so they should make the time and effort to allow us to
see the work they're doing." https://thebea.st/2uamKmc



https://amp.thedailybeast.com/florida-republican-rep-carlos-curbelo-blasts-hhs-for-barring-him-from-visiting-detained-kids?__twitter_impression=true

...as of Thursday, he was CONFIRMED to visit the facility
When he arrived there Friday, as scheduled: OOPS: UNCONFIRMED
NO ENTRY

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
26. I can't even imagine coming to this country for a better life & then your child is taken from you.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jul 2018

I have been patient with the trumpers in my life so far, because the ones I know are mostly quiet & not inflammatory. (One exception & I've unfriended him.)

But after this travesty with the children? No. This is no longer a disagreement of politics, it's a disagreement of what constitutes human decency. If one still supports Trump, in light of everything we know & we've seen of this man's character, then one is not a truly decent human being.

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