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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:56 AM Jul 2018

My niece is campaigning door to door in Virginia. After knocking on one door, the resident came

out and called her a dumb democratic bi%*$. Then he followed her group yelling and spitting profanity. These right wingers are as nutty as their leader. Be careful campaigners!

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My niece is campaigning door to door in Virginia. After knocking on one door, the resident came (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jul 2018 OP
She should have reported it to the police. Meadowoak Jul 2018 #1
That is the advice her mom gave. She thought ignoring him would work. These nutbags have no mfcorey1 Jul 2018 #6
Absolutely dalton99a Jul 2018 #8
Awful, but by contrast, I've never had RWers come to my door, hlthe2b Jul 2018 #2
In the late 80s I told Republican canvassers to get off my property and to not come back. Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #14
I would let them do their spiel and then smile, say I'm a democrat, go away, and shut the door. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #19
While vandalism is not a major problem in my area, I am afraid of inciting anyone hlthe2b Jul 2018 #23
Understood. Be safe. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #36
Finally I was blacklisted homegirl Jul 2018 #25
I have a sign I made that I hold up through the picture window: moriah Jul 2018 #34
Goes to show you how nutty and dangerous they can be Ohiogal Jul 2018 #3
I hope she or one in her group recorded him. Tell her to upload it to twitter or facebook. Tipperary Jul 2018 #4
She did record the encounter. I will send your advice. mfcorey1 Jul 2018 #7
See if they will post it on YouTube, The Figment Jul 2018 #9
Pepper spray superpatriotman Jul 2018 #5
Good way to get shot. Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #10
If you followed them out of the residence with your gun... moriah Jul 2018 #11
Thank you superpatriotman Jul 2018 #15
I did not see any mention of this guy having a gun. Tipperary Jul 2018 #31
You are correct, Ms. Toad brought up guns. moriah Jul 2018 #33
"Pepper spray" mitch96 Jul 2018 #35
true this, watch your back nt heaven05 Jul 2018 #12
general rule work in groups of 2 dembotoz Jul 2018 #13
That's because the RW is so civil. sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #16
She should not go out alone. murielm99 Jul 2018 #17
Can you walk with her? panader0 Jul 2018 #18
The op stated she was with a group. Tipperary Jul 2018 #32
Post it on line greymattermom Jul 2018 #20
I second that motion. 47of74 Jul 2018 #27
That's that civility they are talking about lame54 Jul 2018 #21
Whoa, Everybody! Roy Rolling Jul 2018 #22
Where in VA? Blue_Tires Jul 2018 #24
minngal marieo1 Jul 2018 #26
When we canvass in NJ, we use print-outs of registered Democrats. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #28
THIS MagickMuffin Jul 2018 #30
2012 - had one guy give me a hard time underpants Jul 2018 #29

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
2. Awful, but by contrast, I've never had RWers come to my door,
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:11 AM
Jul 2018

but I wonder what I would do. Of course I'd be polite, but I would not want to talk with them nor have them 'knowing" anything about me that might have them targeting me in the future.

Obviously, this is 180 degrees from your example, which is horrendous, but it got me thinking about what I would do if obvious Trumpsters came to my door. I never used to worry about this kind of thing, but those people are nuts and often malicious and not infrequently violent.

Still, I hate to think I can't open my door to others, even the LDS and & 7th Day adventists, who, though polite, tend to drive me nuts.

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
14. In the late 80s I told Republican canvassers to get off my property and to not come back.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:29 AM
Jul 2018

On their second visit I reinforced this by taking "photos" of them and their vehicle with my empty camera. I've not been bothered since. There was also group of zealots who came every Sunday to invite me to church. I worked rotating shifts and often was recovering from a 7 pm to 7 am shift with one coming that night. They just kept knocking, even going around to knock on my bedroom window. They would not take no for an answer. I finally got the police involved.

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
23. While vandalism is not a major problem in my area, I am afraid of inciting anyone
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jul 2018

I commute a considerable distance 1-2x/weekly and can't afford to come outside and see my tires slashed (as has happened recently in a couple of Denver neighborhoods)

Sort of like sucking it up driving I-25. There are too many aggressive and violent jerks out there.

homegirl

(1,429 posts)
25. Finally I was blacklisted
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jul 2018

by the JW's. When they came to my door I asked them to show me their drivers License so I could come to their hoe and present my religious beliefs to them. The response was "It doesn't work that way." MY respon was "well, it doesn't work this way."

moriah

(8,311 posts)
34. I have a sign I made that I hold up through the picture window:
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jul 2018

"Sick, may be contagious. Sorry. Stay healthy!"

To handle *all* random solicitors I don't recognize/don't want to deal with.

It works whether it's salespeople, religious organizations, or political people. Started doing it when I worked nights. I looked convincingly pathetic. It may no longer be as convincing without obvious bedhead, but it solves the problem.

I figure it's a little white lie that doesn't hurt anybody's feelings. And saves me aggravation.

Ohiogal

(32,005 posts)
3. Goes to show you how nutty and dangerous they can be
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:30 AM
Jul 2018

Maybe your niece should campaign with another person? Hate to think of going around here by myself door to door.

The Figment

(494 posts)
9. See if they will post it on YouTube,
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:57 AM
Jul 2018

The more we front these freaks out the better, this nut needs a good speaking to by the local constable

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
10. Good way to get shot.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:16 AM
Jul 2018

Many states have a castle doctrine rule, that permits a homeowner to kill to defend his castle. Being pepper sprayed by someone who knocked at his door might be sufficient justustification.

And, if a Trump supporter showed up at my house, then pepper sprayed me because I was justifiably angry at the invasion of the sanctity of my home, I'd be plenty pissed.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
11. If you followed them out of the residence with your gun...
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:20 AM
Jul 2018

... castle doctrine doesn't apply.

She could have sprayed anytime she was off the property if they were following her.

Edit to add: Sadly I know too much about this because of researching my instinct to stand in front of a gun pointed at me and tell him to put it down, rather than let the drunk holding it go outside with it. The drunk's wife was my mother so I didn't want her to have to bail him out of jail, we'd just gotten done burying my grandmother and Mom didn't need the aggravation of her husband catching an aggravated assault collar, which one does even in Arkansas if they leave the house to wave a gun around at someone.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
33. You are correct, Ms. Toad brought up guns.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:37 AM
Jul 2018

The idea from the first poster seemed obviously to be that if someone left their home to follow and harass a door-knocker, that pepper spray would be in order.

Ms. Toad suggested it'd be a good way to get shot, and seemed to be saying it'd be a legal shoot, picturing a door-knocker pepper-spraying someone still standing in their own home for getting irate.

It helps if you read the posts before the one you're replying to for context, as we get rapidly off topic from the original story easily around here.

mitch96

(13,911 posts)
35. "Pepper spray"
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jul 2018

I used a portable boat horn on a persistent AT&T "sales" person. .He just would not leave and would not stop talking. When I closed the door he kept ringing the bell and knocking. BLASTED him right in the face... never came back..
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murielm99

(30,745 posts)
17. She should not go out alone.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:43 AM
Jul 2018

She should have a driver, and another person to walk up to the houses with her, preferably a precinct committee person. She should try first to contact the Democrats in her district, and the independents. Maybe she could leave literature with the others, unless they are outside or visible.

I have never had that happen to me. I know the police chief well here. If I ran into any trouble or hostility, I would call him to let him know I was canvassing with a candidate.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
18. Can you walk with her?
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jul 2018

Or another family member or chaperone? If someone did that to my daughter,
I'd lose it.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
20. Post it on line
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:06 AM
Jul 2018

and maybe the person's employer will see it. No legal action needed at all. Let them all lose their jobs for their behavior.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
22. Whoa, Everybody!
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:09 AM
Jul 2018

Don't take the bait. Don't "fight fire with fire" and respond in anger.

Fight fire with water---pause while getting a phone switched to RECORD, and then walk away without a word. (Unless, of course, assaulted physically. Then run)

"Taking one for the team" and getting a disturbing video of a ranting Trump supporter is a bigger victory than a moment of retaliatory anger at a right-wing nut-job.

Becoming a shouting orangutan like the resident is the least-effective option for the entire team.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
26. minngal
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:27 AM
Jul 2018

Thank DJT - he brings this out in people because they are all crazy!! We must not let our anger out in unhealthy ways. We are the party of reasonable people.

no_hypocrisy

(46,119 posts)
28. When we canvass in NJ, we use print-outs of registered Democrats.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jul 2018

We are generally well received and some are relieved to have a "safe haven" to vent their frustrations.

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
30. THIS
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:18 AM
Jul 2018

In Texas we work off the VAN which ensures you only go to Democratic homes. However, if the previous home dweller moved and was replaced by a RWer then all bets off, cause you never know what you'll be getting behind the closed door.

And always go in groups, ALWAYS!

underpants

(182,826 posts)
29. 2012 - had one guy give me a hard time
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jul 2018

Canvassing for Tim Kaine.

The address was on the list but I Saw the Romney Allen signs in his yard so I just kept walking. He kept spewing BS at me and I just walked and said "Okay".

The day after the election I bought a copy of the New York Times and Richmond Times Dispatch and left them on his front porch.

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