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Garrett78

(10,721 posts) Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:05 AM Jul 2018

"Marine turtles dying after becoming entangled in plastic rubbish"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/12/171218154235.htm

Question:

A) Do you assume from the title that *all* marine turtles are dying?

...or...

B) Is it implied and understood that only *some* marine turtles are dying?

Bonus question:

Would reading the article in its entirety clarify the matter, thus negating any (silly) need to assume that the answer is 'A'?

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"Marine turtles dying after becoming entangled in plastic rubbish" (Original Post) Garrett78 Jul 2018 OP

OMG OMG sheshe2 Jul 2018 #1

Well, if the title was "White Marine turtles dying ..." it would totally mean ALL TURTLES. betsuni Jul 2018 #2

Amazing, isn't it? Headlines like that appear all the time without anyone batting an eye. But... Garrett78 Jul 2018 #3

Bingo! mcar Jul 2018 #4

sheshe2

(83,950 posts)

1. OMG OMG

Reply to Garrett78 (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:26 AM

Jul 2018

ALL of them are DYING!

Wait, what? I went to your link and read the article. It is not ALL it's

Hundreds of marine turtles die every year after becoming entangled in rubbish in the oceans and on beaches, including plastic 'six pack' holders and discarded fishing gear.

So very sad. We must stop polluting our oceans and our conversations with that gotcha meme. Not all!

Thanks, Garrett

betsuni

(25,684 posts)

2. Well, if the title was "White Marine turtles dying ..." it would totally mean ALL TURTLES.

Reply to Garrett78 (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:31 AM

Jul 2018

Somehow this is a rule. There would be angry comments: "How can you say all white marine turtles are dying? I'm a white marine turtle and HERE I AM, ALIVE! These posts are divisive. All you want to do is stir up plastic rubbish."

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

3. Amazing, isn't it? Headlines like that appear all the time without anyone batting an eye. But...

Reply to betsuni (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:39 AM

Jul 2018

Last edited Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:51 AM - Edit history (2)

...if a headline leads with "white people," all of a sudden it's as if brains are shut off. Brains that ordinarily would very clearly understand that the headline is not referring to *all* of the subject in question.

We've seen this happen repeatedly on this site. And it only goes to show how much of a white supremacist culture we're all swimming in.

And when people actually have the nerve to refer to articles about what I would call the pandemic of racism in the US as being "racist," I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I expect it from Trumpies, but...

Anyway, Robin DiAngelo put it so well when she said racism is "an act or a dynamic that is backed by the weight of history, legal authority and institutional control."

I doubt the authors of the articles featured in the following threads will face a backlash:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210853540

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210853259

*All* drugmakers, right? *All* Puerto Ricans in Florida, right?

mcar

(42,402 posts)

4. Bingo!

Reply to Garrett78 (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:45 PM

Jul 2018

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