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Orangeutan

(204 posts)
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:07 AM Jul 2018

I don't get it. I just don't get it. (Shakes head.)

The senate voted 97-2 yesterday to affirm the importance of NATO as a deterrent to Russia--an implicit rebuke of Trump and a recognition of the threat he poses.

Then, in an about face, they voted 51-48 in cloture to bring the nomination of Benczkowski to the floor for a vote, with every Repug falling into line.

This guy has never so much as filed a motion in a courtroom, and they think he's fit to run DoJ's Criminal Division and oversee hundreds of prosecutors?

This guy also whitewashed the investigation into the Russian firm Alpha Bank and its role in the Russian meddling as a lawyer representing the bank. As head of the Criminal Division at Justice, he'll be able to fling monkey wrenches at the gears of the Mueller investigation and would be in line to replace Rosenstein should he be removed.

No one on the R side was willing to stand up to this travesty? Not Flake? Not Corker? Sasse? Murkowski? The squishy Collins? None of them?! What are all Flake's pretty speeches on the Senate floor for if he rubber stamps this nomination?

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I don't get it. I just don't get it. (Shakes head.) (Original Post) Orangeutan Jul 2018 OP
I am feeling the same way. This is frightening beyond words. secondwind Jul 2018 #1
Mueller better have a plan B. sellitman Jul 2018 #33
Wow - this is major suckage for America Achilleaze Jul 2018 #2
Called both of my Government of Putin Senators and urged them to sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #3
Government Of Putin. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #14
This: CrispyQ Jul 2018 #4
So true. SharonAnn Jul 2018 #8
+100 Duppers Jul 2018 #19
So true. Spineless treasonous Republicans Pepsidog Jul 2018 #27
Well, I emailed Flake . . . Orangeutan Jul 2018 #5
"would be in line to replace Rosenstein" is he in direct line to replace Rosenstein? Thx in advance uponit7771 Jul 2018 #6
He's not in the direct line of succession, is my understanding Orangeutan Jul 2018 #9
I believe Rachel said he would be the #3 guy in the DoJ... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #18
Yes, but I don't think rank relates to line of succession. Orangeutan Jul 2018 #22
Shit uponit7771 Jul 2018 #21
There was one so-called Democrat that voted for the nomination MojoWrkn Jul 2018 #7
But his presence counts as one more member to the Dems count. R replacement SharonAnn Jul 2018 #11
Votes count more than having a fake (D) behind your name RainCaster Jul 2018 #13
The majority sets the agenda radical noodle Jul 2018 #16
Depends ... aggiesal Jul 2018 #20
All you have to do is find a candidate that can beat him then MGKrebs Jul 2018 #31
Yeah, its a puts one in a quandry. Its like having to tolerate a obnoxious relative at a wedding. olegramps Jul 2018 #25
Colluding hypocrites setting the stage to get rid of Mueller and investigation in lark Jul 2018 #10
That's because the NATO motion that was passed has no effect. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #12
I think You've Answered Your Own Question.... The_Counsel Jul 2018 #15
Which is exactly what I told him in my email to him this morning. Orangeutan Jul 2018 #17
Republicans are traitors Liberalhammer Jul 2018 #23
The rethugs in both houses have all received red Putin dollars through the NRA. Texin Jul 2018 #24
No, not fit to run the criminal division. Fit to create a criminal diversion for DT. n/t woodsprite Jul 2018 #26
Resolutions don't mean a thing. malthaussen Jul 2018 #28
And didn't Joe "the DINO" Manchin fall in line too? calimary Jul 2018 #29
Checkmate Keystone52405 Jul 2018 #30
Most of them have been compromised Perseus Jul 2018 #32

Orangeutan

(204 posts)
5. Well, I emailed Flake . . .
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:46 AM
Jul 2018

seeing as how I just became a new resident of Arizona (as of about 5 minutes ago).

; )

What good it will do, I don't know.

Orangeutan

(204 posts)
9. He's not in the direct line of succession, is my understanding
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:58 AM
Jul 2018

--however, Rachel made the point that head of the Criminal Division is a stepping stone. Conceivably, he could be named to replace Sessions and take over the investigation.

Orangeutan

(204 posts)
22. Yes, but I don't think rank relates to line of succession.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jul 2018

It goes through Eastern District of Va. (the post Dana Boente held before being forced out) and other jurisdictions.

MojoWrkn

(139 posts)
7. There was one so-called Democrat that voted for the nomination
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jul 2018

of Benczkowski and that was SENATOR JOE MANCHIN, D, West Virginia! He is a dem in name only and I hope he loses his next election because he does this continually.

SharonAnn

(13,779 posts)
11. But his presence counts as one more member to the Dems count. R replacement
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:00 AM
Jul 2018

Republican replacement would strengthen their majority.

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
16. The majority sets the agenda
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:54 AM
Jul 2018

and decides what does and does not happen. A majority is of primary importance.

aggiesal

(8,935 posts)
20. Depends ...
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jul 2018

If the Dems have a solid majority, then YES
If not, then NO.

We need to be in the majority to control the committee's and
determine what legislation comes to the floor.
You think the Senate Judiciary Committee under DEM control would allow
a vote on the main floor for Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination?

Otherwise, I agree with you, Manchin has to go.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
31. All you have to do is find a candidate that can beat him then
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jul 2018

beat the R.
In West Virginia.
Be careful though, there is risk in losing.

lark

(23,162 posts)
10. Colluding hypocrites setting the stage to get rid of Mueller and investigation in
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:00 AM
Jul 2018

cooperating with a hostile foreign country to break campaign finance laws and to illegally hack an election. They are 100% Russian Repugs, fighting to keep illegal power they stole and putting an attorney who is all about russia in charge of investigating this and closing it down immediately. They are all liars, say Mueller's investigation is important snd Russia definitely impacted the election, then take affirmative steps to cover everything up by getting rid of Rosenstein, putting Putins mole in charge, then shutting down the investigation with time & knowledge of all the particulars so they can to develop lying evidence to present to the public as justification.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. That's because the NATO motion that was passed has no effect.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:20 AM
Jul 2018

It's just a statement of where they stand. It doesn't actually DO anything or have any legal effect on anything. Maybe a msg to the allies. Who knows.

But when push comes to shove, the Repubs continue to rubberstamp the Russian Puppet in the W.H. where it counts.

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
15. I think You've Answered Your Own Question....
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:48 AM
Jul 2018
What are all Flake's pretty speeches on the Senate floor for if he rubber stamps this nomination?


#exactly

Texin

(2,599 posts)
24. The rethugs in both houses have all received red Putin dollars through the NRA.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:16 AM
Jul 2018

They want their Putin payola to be kept under cloak. Many in the US and abroad know they've been complicit with Putin's US puppet, but they inevitably want to keep this far, far away from investigation and prosecution. If this investigation can be brought to a halt, it will benefit them and their puppetmaster(s).

I'm sickened to voice this, but the simple and inescapable truth of this entire nightmare is the fact that the United States is no longer a constitutional democratic republic. Cheatolini has been kompromat since the '80s. The rethugs have allowed this happen, in fact, participated in it, because it fulfills their desires to rule by corporate kleptocracy and to create a White Males Only dominated country, women, children and minorities of any stripe are theirs to persecute, dominate, demean, use and discard at their whim and fancy with absolutely little to no say in what happens to them.

malthaussen

(17,217 posts)
28. Resolutions don't mean a thing.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:46 AM
Jul 2018

Avoid the smoke and mirrors and watch what they do, it makes much more sense, then.

-- Mal

Keystone52405

(2 posts)
30. Checkmate
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:04 PM
Jul 2018

Trump is consolidating his power and undermining the defenses put in place by our constitution to protect against authoritarian rule. He has control of the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branch and with this appointment may soon have control of the department of justice. The midterm vote is our last hope. If Trump can fix the vote one more time with the help of Russia, that will be checkmate.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
32. Most of them have been compromised
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jul 2018

My feeling is that there is more for Muller to look at than meets the eye, these people have been implicated by the man-child, he just looks and speaks stupid, but he is a mafioso who knows how to involve people into things that are no good so he can grab them by the balls.

Corker? Flake? they are all talk, you would think they would be targets for the democrats to talk them into a no vote for the supreme court nominee, but all they do is talk then they pull their pants down, like all the other repubs, when it comes to voting for stuff the man-child wants. Very weird...yes, indeed!

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