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kentuck

(111,102 posts)
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 09:38 AM Jul 2018

The "Blame it on Obama" distraction...

His first tweet this morning, the day after the 12 Russians were indicted, is to say it happened under the watch of Barack Obama, suggesting that it is none of his business?

Never mind that the Russians are continuing their attacks under the watch of Donald Trump. It doesn't matter because they began under Barack Obama.

Blaming Obama is always a good distraction for Donald Trump. The only other distraction that works as well is to blame Hillary Clinton. But the reality is that we are being attacked and Trump is ignoring it. It doesn't matter when it began.

So, he is still going to meet with Putin on Monday and there is little doubt but that they will coordinate their response. The bottom line is that until Donald Trump admits that we were attacked by Vladimir Putin and the Russians, it is all just a distraction. Put everything on mute.

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ewagner

(18,964 posts)
1. It goes without saying...but I'll say it anyway...
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 09:49 AM
Jul 2018

Putin is magnitudes smarter than Trump...,

I'm guessing that Putin will have a new tactic all laid out for Trump and it will become the Right Wing Meme for the next couple of weeks...

Putin is not only smarter, he's more clever and ultimately more dangerous than Trump....I really cringe when I think of him pulling the strings on this...

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
12. That's a hugely important point.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jul 2018

Thank you. I recommended the OP, and wish I could do the same for your response.

Trump worships Putin. He wants to be partners with him, as is so well documented in Corn & Isikoff's book. But Putin holds Trump in utter contempt. He has manipulated Trump exactly how one might expect an intelligence officer to manipulate a puppet.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
13. It's becoming more and more obvious that he is Putin's puppet ...
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:11 AM
Jul 2018

...and Putin is pulling all the strings.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
2. It's Like Hitting The Hyperspace Button....
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 09:49 AM
Jul 2018

in the old video game Asteroids. When it starts looking bleak, don't worry, just blame Obama!


vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. Actually Obama did do something
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jul 2018

1. He called Putin and demanded that he knock it off. 2. He expelled a bunch of Russians and closed some of their residences in the US. 3. He didn't do more because, unlike Trump, he didn't want to interfere with the upcoming election. 4. McConnell puts the brakes on doing more from the Senate. As in, no senate investigation before the election.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
4. Obama ran out of time...
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:00 AM
Jul 2018

or he would have done more about it. Unfortunately, his successor did everything within his power to obstruct everything, in order to not do anything about it.

Afromania

(2,769 posts)
5. There are two things to take away form the "Obama did it defense"
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:02 AM
Jul 2018

First that he admits that said thing did happen as described and second that he isn't going to do anything to mitigate or fix the damage. I don't know if gross negligence is an impeachable offense but he's admitting gross negligence right there.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
6. Indeed.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:07 AM
Jul 2018

Obama ran out of time or he could have done more about it. Trump is "grossly negligent" in defending our country against a foreign attack.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
14. It's important to
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:15 AM
Jul 2018

recognize that President Obama's efforts very likely stepped the Russian military intelligence from doing more. For but one example, they did not break into state and local election records for no reason. They had the ability to put the next level of operation into play. The evidence suggests that President Obama's actions put a stop to this.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
7. His admission is significant
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jul 2018

He can't help himself when it comes to any opportunity to blame Obama. And in doing so this time he can't assert that Mueller is on a witch hunt. So now it's on him to do something himself.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
8. Yeah! I bet he will really jump in Putin's shit!
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:15 AM
Jul 2018

He will make it very difficult on Putin and his oligarchs. He will be tough as nails!

eleny

(46,166 posts)
9. He won't but he damn sure should
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:25 AM
Jul 2018

Anyhow, I loved Rosenstein's timing. He said the timing was coincidental but I can't help but think they knew they had to act to put the squeeze on Trump. Given the Monday summit.

Like my husband said last night, Trump isn't a private citizen. He works for us and deciding to meet with Putin alone is outrageous. Air Force One should be turned around and forced home immediately. We shouldn't be paying over a million bucks for his golf trip to Scotland to his own golf club. But the Republicans in Congress are knee deep in complicity. So here we are waiting for Mueller or November - whichever comes first.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
10. Perhaps they are trying to tell him that it is the wrong time to meet with Putin?
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:28 AM
Jul 2018

And he is choosing to ignore them. Simple as that.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
16. Obama needs to get on Twitter and use it more
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jul 2018

It's a new world. The name of the service, "Twitter," fools us into thinking it's not as important as it is.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
17. He is essentially a dictator at this point
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jul 2018

He does what he wants without regard to what is best for the country. It's only about what is best for him. When the dems retake the house, articles of impeachment should immediately be introduced and voted on. This would force the Senate to hold a trial. And if the first articles fail, introduce another. The constitution does not address how many times you can try to impeach.

Up until this point I've been against impeachment but he is doing far too much damage to the country.

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