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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:30 PM Jul 2018

Health Insurers Are Vacuuming Up Details About You -- And It Could Raise Your Rates

Without any public scrutiny, insurers and data brokers are predicting your health costs based on data about things like race, marital status, how much TV you watch, whether you pay your bills on time or even buy plus-size clothing.

Marshall Allen July 17, 5 a.m. EDT

This story was co-published with NPR.

To an outsider, the fancy booths at last month’s health insurance industry gathering in San Diego aren’t very compelling. A handful of companies pitching “lifestyle” data and salespeople touting jargony phrases like “social determinants of health.”

But dig deeper and the implications of what they’re selling might give many patients pause: A future in which everything you do — the things you buy, the food you eat, the time you spend watching TV — may help determine how much you pay for health insurance.

With little public scrutiny, the health insurance industry has joined forces with data brokers to vacuum up personal details about hundreds of millions of Americans, including, odds are, many readers of this story. The companies are tracking your race, education level, TV habits, marital status, net worth. They’re collecting what you post on social media, whether you’re behind on your bills, what you order online. Then they feed this information into complicated computer algorithms that spit out predictions about how much your health care could cost them.

Are you a woman who recently changed your name? You could be newly married and have a pricey pregnancy pending. Or maybe you’re stressed and anxious from a recent divorce. That, too, the computer models predict, may run up your medical bills.

Are you a woman who’s purchased plus-size clothing? You’re considered at risk of depression. Mental health care can be expensive.

https://www.propublica.org/article/health-insurers-are-vacuuming-up-details-about-you-and-it-could-raise-your-rates


This is just fucked up.......................vote, your privacy is at stake, and the enabling traitor republicans are not going to do anything except get rid of your health care and these cretin's are invading "our" privacy................

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?p0=263&iso=20181106T12&msg=2018%20Midterm%20Elections

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Health Insurers Are Vacuuming Up Details About You -- And It Could Raise Your Rates (Original Post) turbinetree Jul 2018 OP
This scares me. I have received a few brochures from my company insurers that make me smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #1
We've got to find out what these algorithms are, screw around with them ck4829 Jul 2018 #2
Of course wingnuts will be all for this ... make the 'bad people pay' ... BUT ... mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #3
I wanted to say that too ck4829 Jul 2018 #4
You're on my wavelength CK :) (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #5
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
1. This scares me. I have received a few brochures from my company insurers that make me
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:36 PM
Jul 2018

think that they know more about me than they should. I am not surprised. They don't come right out and say anything, but they make "suggestions" that make me think they know what I eat, drink, how much I exercise, spend time on the internet, watch videos, etc.

I found it kind of disturbing, but hadn't said anything to anybody about it until this post.

ck4829

(35,093 posts)
2. We've got to find out what these algorithms are, screw around with them
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:43 PM
Jul 2018

We can't trust the government to fix this.

Post "I eat baked insects" - How will that affect your rates? And that's going to be in your 'profile' anyway. The more screwy the better.

"I suffer from a terrible disease... a disease called Government Created Killer Nano Robot Infection." - I WANT them to vacuum that up about me.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Of course wingnuts will be all for this ... make the 'bad people pay' ... BUT ...
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:04 PM
Jul 2018

If we can convince them that Ins. Co's consider GUN OWNERSHIP to be a major negative on your ass ... that might wake their asses up ...

ck4829

(35,093 posts)
4. I wanted to say that too
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 04:55 AM
Jul 2018

Suicide, homicide, if you feel you need a gun you must live in a high crime area, etc.

Plenty of reasons for health insurance companies to raise rates for gun ownership, I think we just need to keep asking the question, maybe go ahead and say it will cause rates to go up.

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