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kentuck

(111,103 posts) Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:11 PM Jul 2018

Two Republicans could switch affiliation to "Independent" and change course of history..

All they would need to do is caucus with the Democrats and give the Democrats the majority in the Senate.

You would think there would be a couple that have thought about this? But they are fearful. They are frozen into inaction. Even though they know it would be best for the country.

I have seen people switch Parties in much less treacherous times.

History is calling.

Is anyone listening?

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Two Republicans could switch affiliation to "Independent" and change course of history.. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2018 OP

Who would you suggest should do this? bitterross Jul 2018 #1

Could be a nice going away present by Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #5

McCain is the only one who could. bitterross Jul 2018 #8

Two are leaving the Senate. kentuck Jul 2018 #7

Unfortunately Glamrock Jul 2018 #2

Yes, this shows how full of crap Corker, Flake, Collins, etc are about their patriotism/principles RockRaven Jul 2018 #3

Seems like all of the GOPers(congress) have been compromised . . . Iliyah Jul 2018 #4

Republicans lack the guts to switch, so not now or ever happen beachbum bob Jul 2018 #6

First they have to switch nationality to American... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #9

You win the thread. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2018 #10

Assume they do that. What then? onenote Jul 2018 #11

I don't know that Republicans are unanimous for Kavanaugh at this time. kentuck Jul 2018 #13

Which Republicans are against Kavanaugh onenote Jul 2018 #15

Murkowski and Collins have questioned his position on abortion. kentuck Jul 2018 #17

exactly. So who switches parties and why? onenote Jul 2018 #18

Jim Jeffords n/t jaysunb Jul 2018 #12

Which Republican Senators are Jeffords-like in their moderation? onenote Jul 2018 #16

Same thought I had last week..... Roland99 Jul 2018 #14

bitterross

(4,066 posts)

1. Who would you suggest should do this?

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:14 PM

Jul 2018

None of them seems to have the least bit of spine to do such a thing.

Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)

5. Could be a nice going away present by

Reply to bitterross (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:15 PM

Jul 2018

McCain, Corker, or Flake.

bitterross

(4,066 posts)

8. McCain is the only one who could.

Reply to Funtatlaguy (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:20 PM

Jul 2018

McCain's future is pretty well known.

Flake and Corker probably have some designs on running locally or getting lobbying jobs. They are not going to bite the hand that feeds them in that respect.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)

7. Two are leaving the Senate.

Reply to bitterross (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:16 PM

Jul 2018

Corker and Flake. Both of them despise Trump. That would be a couple of good candidates.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)

2. Unfortunately

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:15 PM

Jul 2018

Their base has removed anyone with a hint of decency during Obama's tenure.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)

3. Yes, this shows how full of crap Corker, Flake, Collins, etc are about their patriotism/principles

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:15 PM

Jul 2018

They are partisan hacks in the end. Party over country, even after the party turns its back on them.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

4. Seems like all of the GOPers(congress) have been compromised . . .

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:15 PM

Jul 2018

Maybe, just maybe McCain is on the boarder.

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)

6. Republicans lack the guts to switch, so not now or ever happen

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:16 PM

Jul 2018

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)

9. First they have to switch nationality to American...

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:22 PM

Jul 2018

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)

10. You win the thread. n/t

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:23 PM

Jul 2018

onenote

(42,714 posts)

11. Assume they do that. What then?

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:25 PM

Jul 2018

Do you think they'll vote against Kavanaugh? Not going to happen.

Can they make impeachment happen? Nope.

So exactly what do you think they would do? Vote against tax breaks for the rich? Vote for preserving Obamacare?

There is no quick fix.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)

13. I don't know that Republicans are unanimous for Kavanaugh at this time.

Reply to onenote (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:35 PM

Jul 2018

McConnell will push him thru as soon as he knows it is a sure thing, in my opinion.

onenote

(42,714 posts)

15. Which Republicans are against Kavanaugh

Reply to kentuck (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:52 PM

Jul 2018

and would switch parties so that the Democratic leadership would keep it from coming to a vote? And if they're against him, why not stay in the party and vote against him and not put the Democrats in a position to block other things that essentially every Republican supports?

It's just not a realistic concept.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)

17. Murkowski and Collins have questioned his position on abortion.

Reply to onenote (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:26 PM

Jul 2018

They are not yet in the Kavanaugh camp. They would not have to switch Parties to vote against Kavanaugh. That's another issue entirely.

onenote

(42,714 posts)

18. exactly. So who switches parties and why?

Reply to kentuck (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 27, 2018, 12:17 AM

Jul 2018

Again, if they switch, what do they accomplish that they want to see accomplished but can't otherwise accomplish? And what do they give up seeing accomplished that they want accomplished.

It's not realistic because it doesn't make sense for any republican to do so in terms of what they want and don't want.