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RandySF

(58,911 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:43 PM Jul 2018

Devine signed onto the Sanders campiagn while doing business with Gates and Manafort.




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In 2014 Tad Devine signed on with Bernie Sanders.

But in 2014 Devine was also emailing with Paul Manafort's right hand man, Rick Gates who has pleaded guilty.

2014 Tad Devine email tells Rick Gates that Devine's rate will be $10,000 a day

Weird, huh
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Devine signed onto the Sanders campiagn while doing business with Gates and Manafort. (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2018 OP
10k a day?!?! What do you get for that? bettyellen Jul 2018 #1
A marathon. :) C Moon Jul 2018 #23
Losing campaigns. That's Rad Tad's hallmark. BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #27
Really bad advice, apparently. MineralMan Jul 2018 #32
Kinda casts a shadow over the whole 2016 campaign. brush Jul 2018 #2
There will be people on the left cooperating with Mueller before it's all voer. RandySF Jul 2018 #4
I'm afraid you're right. It's gonna get ugly for some. The true Dems will be fine though. brush Jul 2018 #5
I think you're right. R B Garr Jul 2018 #8
Well, we're seeing it right here; not sure I can be optimistic. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #35
Definitely WEIRD! BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #3
Wow, those oligarchs pay really really really well! R B Garr Jul 2018 #6
lol.. yeah, good ol Tad Cha Jul 2018 #15
It just keeps getting weirder with Devine/2016 BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #7
This has been obvious for some time. yardwork Jul 2018 #9
Yes, the shock now is utter hypocrisy. OnDoutside Jul 2018 #38
There were a lot of political operative's getting paid in the Ukraine CentralMass Jul 2018 #10
Mueller should bring him in, too. RandySF Jul 2018 #11
The whataboutisms probably won't help much with this one. BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #12
I would are the Bernie Sanders had no involvement and this us guilt by association. CentralMass Jul 2018 #13
And Mark Penn was with Clinton in 2008, not 2016 11cents Jul 2018 #14
Exactly. Thanks for pointing that out. BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #16
So I have to ask RandySF Jul 2018 #18
Because those are the reports you keep sharing. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #36
Aha! That explains why Mark Penn's has switched sides. I keep reading pieces of his, pnwmom Jul 2018 #20
Wow! I can't believe how many of our consultants worked with Manafort Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #17
Truly disturbing. nt oasis Jul 2018 #19
Wow SunSeeker Jul 2018 #21
Curious ellie Jul 2018 #22
Tad Devine is assisting Mueller in case against Paul Manafort Gothmog Jul 2018 #24
I bet he is. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #26
Plea Bargain? Me. Jul 2018 #29
lol, I bet he's working his fingers to the bone helping out. R B Garr Jul 2018 #33
TD is good at his job tho The Polack MSgt Jul 2018 #25
10 Grand A Day Me. Jul 2018 #28
Woah sheshe2 Jul 2018 #30
Curiouser and curiouser. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2018 #31
Reminder to everyone (as noted in first tweet): George II Jul 2018 #34
Whoever hired him demonstrated extremely poor judgement. This helps to illustrate the importance... NurseJackie Jul 2018 #37
See post 39. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #40
Senate passes Russia sanctions bill, pushing back against Trump NCTraveler Jul 2018 #39
"Bernie Sanders of Vermont voting against the (Russia sanctions bill)" --- Unforgivable. NurseJackie Jul 2018 #45
Here's the thing. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #46
Witness List for Mueller now out OnDoutside Jul 2018 #41
No Dem will touch him after RandySF Jul 2018 #42
In fairness they shouldn't have touched him before, and most certainly shouldn't have touched him OnDoutside Jul 2018 #43
Witness list for Paul Manafort's trial includes Bernie Sanders' campaign strategist Devine Gothmog Jul 2018 #44

brush

(53,791 posts)
2. Kinda casts a shadow over the whole 2016 campaign.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:54 PM
Jul 2018

At least now we know there won't be a repeat of that divisiveness in 2020 in the Democratic Party primaries.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
10. There were a lot of political operative's getting paid in the Ukraine
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:10 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2014/02/21/ukraines-long-history-with-us-political-consultants-and-lobbyists

"Manafort isn’t alone in plying his trade in the former Soviet republic; as the Times noted in 2007, former Bill Clinton pollster Stan Greenberg was working for Ukraine’s then-president, Viktor Yushchenko, as were GOP operatives Steve Schmidt and Neil Newhouse. By the 2010 presidential campaign, the Times reported, Yuschenko had retained another former Clinton strategist, Mark Penn, while then-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko had hired David Axelrod’s old firm, AKPD Media. (It’s a small world after all: Schmidt would go on to manage John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign against AKPD client Barack Obama; Newhouse would in 2012 poll for long-time client Mitt Romney in his presidential bid.)"

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
12. The whataboutisms probably won't help much with this one.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:13 PM
Jul 2018

Hillary was the victim at the end of the day and Axelrod wasn’t directly involved in 2016 in any way.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
20. Aha! That explains why Mark Penn's has switched sides. I keep reading pieces of his,
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 01:00 AM
Jul 2018

where he's been identified as a former Clinton strategist, implying that he's still a Democrat.

Seems like he's just a hired gun.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
17. Wow! I can't believe how many of our consultants worked with Manafort
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:57 PM
Jul 2018

It sucks that everybody's for sale.

Stan Greenberg
Mark Penn
David Axelrod
Tad Devine

Let's see what Devine has to say.

The Polack MSgt

(13,190 posts)
25. TD is good at his job tho
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 10:01 AM
Jul 2018

He created the "Lock her up" chant in the Ukraine while working with Manafort and Flynn - Flynn just recycled it against Hillary

Oh, and TAD penned the motto for that "Election" as well - I sounds kind of familiar...

Make Ukraine work again


Me.

(35,454 posts)
28. 10 Grand A Day
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 11:25 AM
Jul 2018

Well that tells me a lot and confirms what I always thought about him and his influence in other quarters

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. Reminder to everyone (as noted in first tweet):
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 03:49 PM
Jul 2018

Only ONE Senator voted against both the Magnitsky Act and the Russia Sanctions.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
37. Whoever hired him demonstrated extremely poor judgement. This helps to illustrate the importance...
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 04:00 PM
Jul 2018

Whoever hired him demonstrated extremely poor judgement. This helps to illustrate the importance of proper vetting and background checks. Or, maybe the person who hired him knew everything already, but just didn't care.

Who knows? It would be interesting to find out for sure, though.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
40. See post 39.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 04:25 PM
Jul 2018

Was it bad judgement?

"Or, maybe the person who hired him knew everything already, but just didn't care."

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
39. Senate passes Russia sanctions bill, pushing back against Trump
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 04:24 PM
Jul 2018

The Senate approved the bill 98-2, with Republican Rand Paul of Kentucky and Independent Bernie Sanders of Vermont voting against the measure.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/15/politics/russia-sanctions-senate-trump/index.html

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
45. "Bernie Sanders of Vermont voting against the (Russia sanctions bill)" --- Unforgivable.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 07:01 PM
Jul 2018
Bernie Sanders of Vermont voting against the (Russia sanctions bill)
Unforgivable.

My opinion of him diminishes almost every day. How is it that someone who ATTACKS and SMEARS the Democratic Party with outrageous LIES (ie: "not the party of the workers" and "the party of the one-percent" and "ideologically bankrupt" and "feeble" and "corrupt&quot can still be considered to be an "ally"? How? That's really not how an ally behaves is it?

And how can it be that he would vote AGAINST the Russia sanctions bill? What's up with that? What is his motivation?

All I'm saying is that it seems to me that someone who was OPPOSED to Russian interference and influence in our nation's elections would want to do everything possible to discourage it, or to punish those who were guilty of it. Yet, here we are... he's essentially giving Russia a pass.

I'm sure his defenders will join together in a chorus of "it was going to pass anyway with or without him" and while that may be true, it really doesn't change the message he's sending to Russia AND to the American voters.

I'm very disappointed in him, but somehow, I can honestly say that I'm not surprised either.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
46. Here's the thing.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 07:26 PM
Jul 2018

This is his extremely flawed reason he gave for voting against it.

"I am strongly supportive of the sanctions on Russia included in this bill. It is unacceptable for Russia to interfere in our elections here in the United States, or anywhere around the world. There must be consequences for such actions. I also have deep concerns about the policies and activities of the Iranian government, especially their support for the brutal Assad regime in Syria. I have voted for sanctions on Iran in the past, and I believe sanctions were an important tool for bringing Iran to the negotiating table. But I believe that these new sanctions could endanger the very important nuclear agreement that was signed between the United States, its partners and Iran in 2015. That is not a risk worth taking, particularly at a time of heightened tension between Iran and Saudi Arabia and its allies. I think the United States must play a more even-handed role in the Middle East, and find ways to address not only Iran's activities, but also Saudi Arabia's decades-long support for radical extremism."

Look at this sentence.

"But I believe that these new sanctions could endanger the very important nuclear agreement that was signed between the United States, its partners and Iran in 2015."

How did that work out for you, Sanders?

Now look at comprehensive immigration reform in '07, where he sided with the Republicans. He claims he was opposing the legislation, which included a pathway to citizenship, because it increased the number of Visa's. So he blocked a pathway to citizenship and a short time later the increase in Visa's just went through a different piece of legislation. People forget that we were only three votes away in '07 for a pathway to citizenship for over ten million people. How are those Visa's doing?

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
43. In fairness they shouldn't have touched him before, and most certainly shouldn't have touched him
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 04:41 PM
Jul 2018

during.

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