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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:31 AM Aug 2018

"Trump wants GOP to lose in 2018 so he can win in 2020"

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/president-doesnt-give-damn-msnbc-panel-says-trump-wants-gop-lose-2018-can-win-2020/

“There is no rational explanation — even from an irrational president — for him to demand a shutdown of the federal government, in a midterm election in less than 100 days, unless he wants to help elect Democrats,” he said.

He then went on to say that Trump wants Democrats to take back the House because he “cannot afford to run in 2020” with the unpopular Republican Congress hanging around his neck.

“He needs a foil, and what better foil than House Democrats?” he asked.

Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele agreed with Israel’s analysis and said that Trump was essentially throwing his own party under the bus to make life easier for his reelection campaign in two years.

“The president doesn’t really give a damn about this legislative process,” he said. “The better foil for him, coming out of 2018, is to spend the next 18 months haranguing against Nancy Pelosi.”




That makes too much sense.

1. Trump has no compunctions about firing people until he gets his will. If he believes he has to get rid of Republicans in Congress to win his reelection in 2020, he would do it.

2. Trump is obsessed with old women. He has basically begged Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren to run against him in 2020. Holding non-stop campaign-rallies from November 2018 to November 2020 against Nancy Pelosi is a dream come true for him.

3. Trump is arrogant enough to believe that he's such a good negotiator that he can get a Democratic Congress to do his bidding.
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"Trump wants GOP to lose in 2018 so he can win in 2020" (Original Post) DetlefK Aug 2018 OP
What I don't get about this idea is... onlyadream Aug 2018 #1
Trump wants to look like a winner Renew Deal Aug 2018 #5
Do you really think that he has thought this through? DetlefK Aug 2018 #6
What a load of shit. Iliyah Aug 2018 #2
Ive been thinking about this the last few weeks Renew Deal Aug 2018 #3
+1 DetlefK Aug 2018 #4
This is stupid fucking shit manor321 Aug 2018 #7
I could see his little brain scheming like this.... FM123 Aug 2018 #8
I think Malcolm Nance had mentioned something like this a week or two back NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #9
Any idea that includes Twitler having a plan Phoenix61 Aug 2018 #10
Meh. That makes no sense. procon Aug 2018 #11

onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
1. What I don't get about this idea is...
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:36 AM
Aug 2018

if dems take Congress, then doesn't he lose control and they can impeach?

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
5. Trump wants to look like a winner
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:38 AM
Aug 2018

So he will sign pretty much anything congress sends him. He might be better off in that sense. The chances of him being impeached AND removed are still not high.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. Do you really think that he has thought this through?
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:39 AM
Aug 2018

The OP is just idle, worthless speculation, because you NEVER know how crazy Trump actually is.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
3. Ive been thinking about this the last few weeks
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:36 AM
Aug 2018

He knows the economy is going to tank. He wants to blame Democrats for it, so why not get someone else in power to blame?

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
7. This is stupid fucking shit
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:42 AM
Aug 2018

How about we not just follow what Murdoch's paper wants us to talk about?

FM123

(10,053 posts)
8. I could see his little brain scheming like this....
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:43 AM
Aug 2018

But if he is wrong and Pelosi isn't chosen as speaker and the new person doesn't quite serve as well as red meat for his base, then his plan backfires "bigly".

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. I think Malcolm Nance had mentioned something like this a week or two back
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:49 AM
Aug 2018

so, it's possible as Nance has been pretty accurate

What I was thinking is that if Russia is hacking voting machines, they could do so on behalf of Democrats and make it so unrealistic that the results get questioned by Devin Nunes and/or Mitch McConnell and the Russians "mistakenly" leave footprints behind indicating the machines were hacked.

Supreme Court throws out the results and Trump gets to claim the Russians really were colluding with Democrats. Republican base gets fired up after being down following the election.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
10. Any idea that includes Twitler having a plan
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 10:15 AM
Aug 2018

is wrong. He doesn't have plans. He has ego driven impulses.

procon

(15,805 posts)
11. Meh. That makes no sense.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 10:29 AM
Aug 2018

That's say that's the plan. OK, Trump gets reelected and then he's facing a Democratic controlled House that could start impeachment proceedings, even if they fail to take the Senate, just to publicly expose all of Trump criminal activities. The Dems block all his legislation and open a smorgasbord investigations with crates of subpoenas calling in everything Trump and the GOP has been involved with. Trump is an idiot, but he's not stupid enough to deliberately stuff his fat ass into a meat grinder.

If the Dems get a lucky break and they take both chambers, Trump is toast an he knows what awaits him. Again, another no win situation for him.

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