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shockey80

(4,379 posts) Thu Aug 2, 2018, 11:24 AM Aug 2018

I have heard many different theories why Manafort hasn't flipped.

He is hoping for a pardon. That sounds risky and stupid.

He is afraid of the Russians. I am not sure I believe that one.

He thinks he can beat the charges. Maybe, he acts like a narcissist.

He is waiting to see what prison time he is looking at. If it's a life sentence he may try and make a deal after he is sentenced.

Mueller has not offered a deal. Mueller may not need him to flip. He has enough evidence from Gates and others who have flipped.

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I have heard many different theories why Manafort hasn't flipped. (Original Post) shockey80 Aug 2018 OP

Who cares? He's going down vlyons Aug 2018 #1

One of the last two Phoenix61 Aug 2018 #2

Manafort's in court testimony would be valuable empedocles Aug 2018 #3

Not the last - no such thing as a slam dunk case lame54 Aug 2018 #4

Perhaps the russian mafia threatened to kill his family if he talks Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #5

Or, as I have suggested before, its not improbable that trump has talked directly w manafort, empedocles Aug 2018 #8

He's as beholden to the Russians as Trump is. Vinca Aug 2018 #6

He's probably as stupid as drumph. BSdetect Aug 2018 #7

He might not be a credible witness. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #9

vlyons

(10,252 posts)

1. Who cares? He's going down

Reply to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 11:27 AM

Aug 2018

Phoenix61

(17,011 posts)

2. One of the last two

Reply to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 11:30 AM

Aug 2018

Mueller may offer him a deal after he is found guilty but before he is sentenced.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

3. Manafort's in court testimony would be valuable

Reply to Phoenix61 (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:03 PM

Aug 2018

Paper trails are 'conclusive', but backed up by live testimony, paper becomes much more tangible to jurors.

As trump apparently said, if Manafort flips [that would be very bad? or something like that]

lame54

(35,313 posts)

4. Not the last - no such thing as a slam dunk case

Reply to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:05 PM

Aug 2018

Fullduplexxx

(7,868 posts)

5. Perhaps the russian mafia threatened to kill his family if he talks

Reply to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:27 PM

Aug 2018

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

8. Or, as I have suggested before, its not improbable that trump has talked directly w manafort,

Reply to Fullduplexxx (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 01:24 PM

Aug 2018

and trump could have delivered a specific putin directed threat to manafort

Vinca

(50,300 posts)

6. He's as beholden to the Russians as Trump is.

Reply to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:28 PM

Aug 2018

You either follow their orders or "lose your balance" on a high building.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)

7. He's probably as stupid as drumph.

Reply to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:33 PM

Aug 2018

Thinks he can out smart the prosecution and delay final conviction though appeals etc

Maybe he has some magic gloves to produce at the last minute?

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

9. He might not be a credible witness.

Reply to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2018, 01:27 PM

Aug 2018

There might be no interest in knocking down his charges to the point he would only be looking at 20 years instead of 300+.

They might have everything they need from him by way of a paper trail or further investigation into his acquaintances.

He might not be connected.

Lots of possible reasons.

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