But for a different reason. We need someone sharp-tongued to push back against Trump's demeaning rudeness. Biden seems to fit that bill.

'sharp-tongued to push back against Trump's demeaning rudeness.'

'I know he is older than dirt.' !!! Dirt is MUCH older!

Both of them, with executive experience, would be a formidable pair, to repair the damage we're sustaining.

Great Executive experience with both of them..It would be the best of all worlds trying to get it back from the brink..

at the Bakery run by Vets.. It was like a light went off.. this could be our saving grace..

to unite and work with responsible and decent conservatives is striking me as just what the nation's going to need to heal and pull together too. Those who can of course. Executive experience is critically important for itself also, of course, but perhaps even secondary to its ability to reassure and to symbolize what's right with America. And President Obama would be with him all the way, practically and as another powerful symbol.

I've always liked Martin O'Malley. He's weak on stage, though, soft seeming, and the VP candidate needs to be able to slice and dice while Biden glows with reassuring warmth and goodness from a pedestal. I'd support MOM gladly of course.

But I'm thinking Kamala Harris: Female, black/Midasian Indian, strong progressive and civil libertarian who prefers working from inside power structures and forming alliances to achieve, tough as Biden never has been. And alongside his signature good nature, that she looks it could be a good thing, even in a woman. Her mixed-race heritage would handicap Republican attacks. Displaying overt racism loses lots of independent votes.

At least I like to think anyway. Perhaps two very white men would fly better this time, a little retrenching from too much of the change that produced Trump. Kennedy III perhaps symbolizing generational progression...

is striking me as just what the nation's going to need to heal.'

Exactly

I've thought for a while that the next Dem. President needs to be experienced, mature and rock solid to pull the US out of tRump's big swamp and rapidly start reversing the harm he has caused. Technically, I have no horse in the race, being in Oz, apart from world peace, human equality and the fight against massive corporations and corruption.

There are some younger and exciting potential candidates out there but Joe would be the next closest thing to Obama's third term.

into files to find the experienced people we will need in areas that the current Administration has let go .. destroyed.. refused to fill openings.. We are going to need all the experience we can get

pick someone as a running mate from across the country? I personally would love a Biden/Kennedy ticket, but I even think DE and MA are too close. What about Biden/Harris, Biden/Castro? Need to look into this more.

Biden could lay the ground to fix the trail of carnage that Trump is leaving us with in a single 4 yr term. He also knows how to deal with foreign leaders and already has a relationship with most which would start to repair US relations. This would give a younger VP on-the-job training and mentor them - especially in the foreign relations area. Then let them run for Pres in 2024 and 2028. And by God, during his single term, appoint either of the Obama's or Hillary (if any would agree) to the Supreme Court!

Of course, during his term, couldn't he appoint Obama as head of a recovery effort without having to go through any rigamarole?

But at this unusual time, the unusual should prevail to pull us back from the slough of despond.

is going to have to rebuild it from the ground up.. Positions that usually go from one administration to another.. have been dismantled.. whew.. scary to think about.. so you are right. they usually try to get people from different area.. but this is going to be so off kilter

Joe would be great. Running mate: Sen. Tammy Duckworth.

and that first four years.. especially that first 2 years Freddie.. whew.. they are going to be brutal.. trying to fill all the positions that have been let go..

I think he could pull it together better and have a better understanding of the big picture.

But I think Biden could be the ticket to put it back together, .. Our government is broken.. To be honest with you.. I would not wish what the next President is going to have to face on my worst enemy.. so many people who make the government go.. who move from administration to administration.. keeping it all on an even keel.. are being let go.. If Joe with O'Malleys help would put in 4 years.. O'Malley could finish pulling it all back..

“so many people who make the government go.. who move from administration to administration.. keeping it all on an even keel.. are being let go..”

but just consider the negatives he receives HERE, seems clear the general public's view of Biden is significantly better, so more likely to be able to win.

Bill Gates, Bezos, Oprah, Manchin, Christ, etc. None of who would I want at the helm.

I love Biden as a human being and how compassionate he is. He cones with a bit of tenacity as well. I don’t think he is the campaigner people give him credit for. I’m not saying he is bad. I’m saying people giving him high marks in polls are often doing it because he is awesome uncle Joe. Which he is.

Peacetrain made a point above about I wasn’t thinking about that does warm me up to Biden more. That is how decimated the federal government is going to be with all of the people who make it function finding their way out the door for one reason or another. Biden is very well versed in that area and it’s big moving forward.

Last but not least, I think a lot of people I see talking him up are going to be a bit shocked to learn how conservative he is on economics. They mainly know him in that area by way of promoting Obama’s positions, which are to the left of Biden’s. I imagine Biden has slid left a little in that area but his pre-Obama track record is there for all to see.

I would vote for Biden in the general. Not begrudgingly. It would be a great vote. I can’t picture a field where I would vote for him in the primaries.

The Democratic Party of the 80s and 90s wanted to be all things to all people and accordingly did a pretty poor job for the working class as they were too busy IMO policing the world and becoming BFFs with Wells Fargo and Citibank. Just my opinion, but I'm a bit of a lefty.

As the links show. Numerous Dems are show there to hold a more pregressive line. Boxer, Haskins, Leahy, etc. Past votes will clearly be scrutinized.

Let's explore the talent we have with women in politics now. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren for starters.

It's embarrassing that we haven't been as progressive on this issue as so many other democracies around the world.

sharp-tongued to push back against Trump's demeaning rudeness as said above. I don't use 'superficial' characteristics to define that need. Sorry, yank.

Your description sounds like somebody familiar... hmm I don't know...

Let's start thinking about tomorrow...

Do tell.

linked to Bill's affair with Monica (even tho she is certainly not at fault for that).

Americans share a lot of her history and it's all tangled up. I very much like HRC and proudly voted for her and expected her to win. One of the worst days in my life was when I read the words "President-elect Trump" when I got up in the middle of the night to celebrate her victory.

Or at least someone younger/more diverse. I don't know that another old white guy is the answer.

I agree that we need a woman POTUS. The Women's movement since tRump was elected
has been huge. Women outnumber men as voters. Democrats will vote for a woman.
I think a Woman/Woman ticket would be a winner.

Would kill the 2 idiots in debates!

Whoever wins the nomination will unify the party.

need is...

TAMMY DUCKWORTH!!

I like O'Malley and I love Joe Biden. But I'm sorry to say, I think Biden is too old. One guy that caught my attention recently is Governor Steve Bullock D-Montana (believe it or not). I like Bullock for the top of the ticket. If you haven't seen or heard much of him check Bullock out on Youtube. The guy has youth and charisma by the boatload. All the better to draw a contrast against Trump. We don't want to try and out-nasty or out-argue Trump IMO. Look where that got GOP primary challengers last time. It's hard to out argue someone when they just make up stuff whenever it suits them.

And if Bullock could get elected in Montana he should play well with moderates (or both parties) in the mountain west and maybe even the midwest.

edit: removed a word

I always thought he was a great potential future president, but voters just don't go for him. He had no traction in the primaries.

which likely won't be the situation next time.

I was a delegate to the 2016 convention and I saved my JOE floor sign. I would love to be able to use it again. My son also saved one one of these signs from the convention.

This is the think that I really dislike about American politics. The campaign is constant. It never stops. It is just another commodity.

I have no problem with either Biden or O'Malley, but we are talking about an election that will take place more than 2 year from an election that hasn't even happened yet.

The mess may be considerably less for whichever Democratic presidential candidate is elected in 2020 if we can focus on getting out there and electing a Democratic House and Senate to start the repair process.

doesn't really connect with me. But we could do worse than Biden. I don't want any celebs running because of the Trump damage, but younger could also bring fresh ideas.

'Martin Joseph O'Malley (born January 18, 1963) is an American politician and attorney who served as the 61st Governor of Maryland from 2007 to 2015. He previously served as the Mayor of Baltimore from 1999 to 2007, and was a councilman from the Third Council District in the northeast section of the city on the Baltimore City Council from 1991 to 1999.

O'Malley served as the chair of the Democratic Governors Association from 2011 to 2013, while being governor of Maryland. Following his departure from public office in early 2015, he was appointed to The Johns Hopkins University's Carey Business School as a visiting professor focusing on government, business and urban issues.

As governor, in 2011, he signed a law that would make illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children eligible for in-state college tuition. In 2012, he signed a law to legalize same-sex marriage in Maryland. Each law was put to a voter referendum in the 2012 general election, and was upheld by the majority of the state electorate.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O%27Malley

I mean people like Oprah who wouldn't have experience.

Without a response from a hater or someone bringing up 1991. Progress!

and has not enriched himself during that time....still rides the train like a working stiff. I still remember the fact that Jerry Brown drove a Beetle to work as governor. These are the kinds of example I remember.

I feel the same as many posters here...not a candidate I would choose in a primary but I would feel confident in voting for him in a general.

I just really, really hope that whoever gets the nod also gets the support of most Dems and that we can GOTV!

at the Clarence Thomas hearings. It was more important to him that he get along with the Republicans on the committee -- which he LED -- than to give her a fair hearing, by having her witnesses speak. Instead, he decided to "honor his promise" to the Republicans to quickly finish up the hearings.

….but I really want Biden!!!! It will be like climbing Mt Everest AND coming back down.

I believe he is the man we need to stop the assault on democracy in this country.

I think it would be great!