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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:17 PM Aug 2018

'I Hope You Get Raped and Killed': MSNBC's Katy Tur Details the Vicious Threats She Receives Because

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/i-hope-you-get-raped-and-killed-msnbcs-katy-tur-details-vicious-threats-she%3famp

'I Hope You Get Raped and Killed': MSNBC's Katy Tur Details the Vicious Threats She Receives Because of Trump


"And in case you want to argue this has nothing to do with the president, the most recent note I got ended with MAGA."

Katy Tur details the violent threats reporters are receiving as a result of Trump's reckless rhetoric:
3:35 PM - Aug 3, 2018
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'I Hope You Get Raped and Killed': MSNBC's Katy Tur Details the Vicious Threats She Receives Because (Original Post) G_j Aug 2018 OP
And we're supposed to be civil with those assholes? Give me a break! Initech Aug 2018 #1
We're supposed to listen to them and try to understand them. Different Drummer Aug 2018 #22
You can't be reasonable with someone who makes a death threat. Initech Aug 2018 #27
Agreed. n/t Different Drummer Aug 2018 #28
Agreed blueseas Aug 2018 #31
And maybe you don't WANT TO be reasonable with someone who makes death threats! calimary Aug 2018 #39
That's why they make death threats, they are not reasonable people! Initech Aug 2018 #41
Yesterday, I Got Lectured... ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #45
If tRumpers could be *reasoned with*, then they wouldn't be tRumpers.... lastlib Aug 2018 #55
can you believe that shit? Takket Aug 2018 #37
I understand them, all right jmowreader Aug 2018 #38
This predates Trump oberliner Aug 2018 #2
It does, but, in the Trump era, it's amplified... Dennis Donovan Aug 2018 #10
Agreed oberliner Aug 2018 #11
So why did you post that it predates Trump? Kingofalldems Aug 2018 #12
Because it does oberliner Aug 2018 #17
Katy Tur is getting threatened because of Trump. Kingofalldems Aug 2018 #18
That's for sure oberliner Aug 2018 #21
Candidate Trump used to call out Katy Tur by name at rallies. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2018 #26
just unbelievable.. nt G_j Aug 2018 #47
I'd love to pinpoint exactly where this shit got started. Initech Aug 2018 #58
Is Trump ever responsible for anything? Kingofalldems Aug 2018 #15
I think he is emblematic of all the darkest elements of the Republican Party oberliner Aug 2018 #20
And he brings that poison out in others. calimary Aug 2018 #46
He's the symptom mythology Aug 2018 #36
You have half the explanation DFW Aug 2018 #43
"Trumpsters promise mayhem will make America great!" struggle4progress Aug 2018 #3
My hubby and I just love Katy Butterflylady Aug 2018 #4
SHS jaxind Aug 2018 #5
To be fair, she did get kicked out of a chicken restaurant too... meadowlander Aug 2018 #6
I doubt she went hungry. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #7
I do too. Progressive dog Aug 2018 #8
Stapphh.. HipChick Aug 2018 #16
Jim Acosta, as well as Katy, and I suspect more journalists will come under Trump's gun. maddiemom Aug 2018 #33
I honestly predicted he'd be going full Howard Hughes by now. Initech Aug 2018 #42
She needs protection from comedians like Raid needs protection from flies and ants. n/t DFW Aug 2018 #44
I love Katy Tur!!! onecent Aug 2018 #9
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Aug 2018 #13
Megyn Kelly reported similar abuse and threats from the trumpanzees Tanuki Aug 2018 #14
Sick bastards. BlueStater Aug 2018 #19
"Even when the orange asshole exits the stage..." Different Drummer Aug 2018 #25
As a mortal being who will die someday, he'll have to exit at some point whether he wants to or not. BlueStater Aug 2018 #40
Right MFM008 Aug 2018 #52
I wonder what their mothers, grandmothers and sisters think of this? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #23
Katy Tur should publicly out the threats she has received FakeNoose Aug 2018 #24
I Doubt They Left That Info LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #30
Trump singled her out because she was female, young, & vulnerable. He pointed the mob at her. Hekate Aug 2018 #29
Just like a playground bully. lpbk2713 Aug 2018 #53
Stop covering the rallies. They are only for the Cretin to put on his f'd up Reality Show drama. T Guilded Lilly Aug 2018 #32
Don't even report that they are happening. Ilsa Aug 2018 #50
I totally agree! This jerk has yet to make ANY leadership decisions or... Guilded Lilly Aug 2018 #59
What a bunch of neanderthalic... chwaliszewski Aug 2018 #34
Come on now. Blue_true Aug 2018 #35
Find these assholes, publicize them so they get fired and then call the police & lark Aug 2018 #48
Her Response Is to Keep Doing Her Job Leith Aug 2018 #49
And Chuck and Nancy whimpered "civility, people!" RVN VET71 Aug 2018 #51
America's Deplorable scum infestation will take years to eradicate. oasis Aug 2018 #54
Take no pleasure in saying this. It is inevitable that dotard will eventually have Enoki33 Aug 2018 #56
Culture of fear bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #57
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #60
Katy Tur has great courage.. Permanut Aug 2018 #61
So now you begin to think maybe parroting the GOPs false equivalency for decades pecosbob Aug 2018 #62

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
45. Yesterday, I Got Lectured...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:44 PM
Aug 2018

...because I dared some punk kid to use f'in liberal and the n word to my face.
I said I'd ruin that kid's day and his useless high school football career
Why are so many here oblivious to the fact that this a fucking fight, not a debate?

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
55. If tRumpers could be *reasoned with*, then they wouldn't be tRumpers....
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 11:41 AM
Aug 2018

The only way I'm going to reason with them is with the heaviest piece of dimensional lumber I can swing.

Takket

(21,578 posts)
37. can you believe that shit?
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:37 PM
Aug 2018

quick, go find me an article encouraging people on the right to "reach out and understand" people on the left.

Doesn't exist.

Why is that?

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
38. I understand them, all right
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:43 PM
Aug 2018

They’re insane, pissed off because Trump drove them to it, armed and probably homicidal.

What I don’t understand: If I were to take a block of clay and mold something that was everything the Trump base hates, that something would be Donald Trump. How did they go so far from their values?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. This predates Trump
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:26 PM
Aug 2018

From 2014:

Why Female Journalists Are A Major Target For Internet Trolls (Sexism Has Something To Do With It)

Excerpt:

Women journalists are a particularly attractive target for internet trolls. A study by the think tank Demos found that men receive more Twitter abuse than their female counterparts in every single profession — except for female journalists.

Around 5% of the tweets a female journalist gets are abusive or derogatory. That’s one in 20, more than three times the number for male journalists, or for women in general. It doesn't make a difference how well-known she is: the figure holds true whether she's Caitlin Moran or the editor of the Whitby Gazette.

The nature of the trolls' comments could point to the reason for the singling out of women writers and presenters. Abuse is often aggressively sexual. Rape threats are common as are insults about a woman’s appearance. Too much sexuality or not enough seem to be equally problematic: female journalists could be a ‘slut’ or 'in need of a shag'. The majority of the trolls are men. This is, clearly, a sexism issue.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/07/female-journalists-women-trolled-feminism-sexism_n_5946346.html

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Agreed
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:01 PM
Aug 2018

Women journalists have been dealing with this awful crap for a while, unfortunately. Trump is definitely making it even worse.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Because it does
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:09 PM
Aug 2018

Women journalists have had to deal with rape and murder threats from online trolls for a while now. This is not a new phenomenon. This has been gone on before Trump and will continue after he is gone.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
58. I'd love to pinpoint exactly where this shit got started.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 01:13 PM
Aug 2018

You can say it was Gamergate, but Gamergate is a product of the Alt Right, which was a product of extreme conservatism and alpha male culture. We can't stop what happened but we can work toward fixing it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. I think he is emblematic of all the darkest elements of the Republican Party
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:13 PM
Aug 2018

He is the embodiment of all that nastiness and hate.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
46. And he brings that poison out in others.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:52 PM
Aug 2018

His shitty behavior validated by his “win” in the last election shows his fans that behavior is okay. He’s suffered no consequences for it. So it’s deemed okay. And there’s the “role model” for his deplorable fans.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
36. He's the symptom
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:33 PM
Aug 2018

If it were just Trump, why are Labour MPs in England getting the threats? Gamergate?

Trump doesn't have mythical powers. He isn't compelling these idiots to do something they weren't already predisposed to doing. Pretending it's all Trump means you aren't getting to the root of the problem. Plus it pushes the responsibility from the people making the threats. As Nuremberg Trials show, claiming you were following orders isn't a defense. These are real people making really stupid choices. They don't deserve to hide behind Trump.

https://mashable.com/2014/12/01/rape-threats-contact-mothers/#_QRn_gdRaPqx

December 2014

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/06/04/lindy-west-reads-aloud-some-of-the-revolting-rape-threats-shes-received

June 2013

https://www.polygon.com/2014/10/11/6963279/brianna-wu-death-threats-police-harassment

October 2014

DFW

(54,410 posts)
43. You have half the explanation
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:03 PM
Aug 2018

"He isn't compelling these idiots to do something they weren't already predisposed to doing."

Absolutely, but what Trump has done is to remove any inhibition these people may have felt up to now to act on their base instincts. Society imposes certain norms that serve as a brake on people that would otherwise all rush out to the nearest gun shop and spray the nearest crowd with bullets. Trump is slowly breaking down those norms, and he will declare his shock and offer thoughts and prayers, along with the rest of the Republicans, when the first politically motivated massacres have passed into our bored, disinterested history.

Butterflylady

(3,544 posts)
4. My hubby and I just love Katy
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:41 PM
Aug 2018

So it was very upsetting to hear how she's being threatening like that. What are these networks doing to protect these people. I know they have to do their jobs, but to do it for what, an a**hole who lies with every breath he takes. He's not worth losing a life. Sanity must soon prevail before it becomes too late

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
5. SHS
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:47 PM
Aug 2018

Ohh, but Sarah Huckabee Sanders needs security protection because a comedian poked fun at her lying! Poor Katy...she is the one that needs the security protection!!

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
33. Jim Acosta, as well as Katy, and I suspect more journalists will come under Trump's gun.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:24 PM
Aug 2018

Trump is MAD (as in increasingly insane). How long are the PTB going to ignore this, (aside from grumbling and bitching), and take some ACTION. No ordinary person with any public forum would be allowed to continue in this way. No responsible person talks and acts this way. A manager of a local Walmart would have been out the door long since. This whole situation is NOT NORMAL!

Initech

(100,081 posts)
42. I honestly predicted he'd be going full Howard Hughes by now.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:59 PM
Aug 2018

Sure, we're not at the point where he's peeing into mason jars and storing them in a closet but he's growing increasingly more insane by the day. Just a matter of time.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
44. She needs protection from comedians like Raid needs protection from flies and ants. n/t
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:05 PM
Aug 2018

Last edited Sat Aug 4, 2018, 08:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Referring to SHS in case that wasn't clear!

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
14. Megyn Kelly reported similar abuse and threats from the trumpanzees
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:04 PM
Aug 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/dec/06/megyn-kelly-donald-trump-social-media-online-abuse

"Journalist Megyn Kelly, who is under armed guard after receiving death threats, has accused Donald Trump’s social media director of stirring hatred on the internet.

The Fox News host urged Dan Scavino, a member of the presidential transition team’s leadership staff, to stop encouraging hostile and abusive elements online.
.....

She received death threats and obscene phone calls, she continued. “When Donald Trump comes after you, it isn’t just a tweet – ‘oh wow, he’s tweeting about her’, and I understand he’s a fighter, he’s a counter-puncher, I get all that – but even then he has such power that a single tweet can unleash hell in somebody’s life.

“I’ve been under armed guard for 16 months and my children have been under armed guard and it’s not an appropriate price to pay for hard-hitting journalism.”....(more)

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
19. Sick bastards.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:13 PM
Aug 2018

I don't see how the United States is ever going to recover from this nightmare. About 40% of this country have taken off their masks and revealed how truly disgusting they are. Even when the orange asshole exits the stage, things aren't just going to be able to go back to normal and the majority of the country will not be able to pretend they didn't see the things they saw.

As much as we detest Trump, he didn't create these sickos. They existed before him. All he did was just release them from their cages.

Different Drummer

(7,621 posts)
25. "Even when the orange asshole exits the stage..."
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:24 PM
Aug 2018

He may not willingly exit the stage. He seems to want to be President for life.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
40. As a mortal being who will die someday, he'll have to exit at some point whether he wants to or not.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:56 PM
Aug 2018

Whether it's through death or whatever, he won't always be around. That's what I meant. His sick followers, unfortunately, will long outlive his time in the spotlight.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
52. Right
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 10:54 AM
Aug 2018

Age 72. Bad things can happen fast.
The fate of the world may be in the hands of
Cholesterol. ....

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
24. Katy Tur should publicly out the threats she has received
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:23 PM
Aug 2018

I mean, publish their names and give their addresses if you have them. Broadcast their vile words for everyone to read and hear. Don't protect these assholes. This is a police matter.

Just sayin'


 
30. I Doubt They Left That Info
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:49 PM
Aug 2018

If they were dumb enough to though, I'm certain she would have forwarded this to proper authorities.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
29. Trump singled her out because she was female, young, & vulnerable. He pointed the mob at her.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:44 PM
Aug 2018

We all watched him do it. This is not her first threat, I'm sure of it, and it won't be her last.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
32. Stop covering the rallies. They are only for the Cretin to put on his f'd up Reality Show drama. T
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:04 PM
Aug 2018

They only give him what he wants more than anything:attention.
Just don’t show them.
They are never anything of substance.
There are never ANY facts or information.
There are showcases for freaks.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
59. I totally agree! This jerk has yet to make ANY leadership decisions or...
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 01:42 PM
Aug 2018

inform the country about anything positive or remotely regarding the truth since he took (stole) the office. He has done nothing but display twisted, narcissist self-aggrandizement at all these “rallies”.

The Cretin’s entire time in office has been one big cluster fuck of incompetent, petty, vengeful “pay backs” against every and anyone who challenged his own lofty, overblown opinion of his wretched, mediocre worth.

He has played the Media as tools and fools. They’ve looked cowed and weak.

I am dumbfounded that it has taken them this long to revolt. His entire scheme is a whole new ballgame of lies and cons and manipulations. You would think the “journalists” would have the smarts to refuse to play, but not that you would notice... up until just recently when some have rediscovered their spines.

If something truly important needs to be relayed, it would be without his blustering self-loving jagoff BS
monopolizing the airways.

Resist REFUSE Revolt.
Accent now on the REFUSE.
Take away the attention.
THAT is THE powerful weapon.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. Come on now.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:33 PM
Aug 2018

Don't you realize that when people are economically anxious, they talk about rape and murder? We just need to go into their communities and talk to them an be extra civil, and in no time flat, they will be belting out choruses of kumbaya with us. :

lark

(23,108 posts)
48. Find these assholes, publicize them so they get fired and then call the police &
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 09:49 AM
Aug 2018

Lock Them Up! They are the true criminals, along with their criminal treasonous sociopathic Herr Orange Menace.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
49. Her Response Is to Keep Doing Her Job
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 09:56 AM
Aug 2018

Like an adult and a professional.

Meanwhile, SHS's eyes fill with tears and gets Secret Service protection.

RVN VET71

(2,692 posts)
51. And Chuck and Nancy whimpered "civility, people!"
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 10:49 AM
Aug 2018

Huckasanders has proven herself to be a sorry excuse for a woman and mother. But the Democratic leadership reacted to her actually very polite expulsion from a restaurant as if she'd had spaghetti and meatballs dumped on her head. And, in the interests of this faux-civility, they won't call out Trump for egging on his foul mouthed, soulless, cowardly followers to ever greater depths of depravity. Or did I miss where Chuck and Nancy went public and condemned as despicable the threats of violence perpetrated by Trump's followers when they occur and are reported, as here?

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
56. Take no pleasure in saying this. It is inevitable that dotard will eventually have
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 12:17 PM
Aug 2018

blood on his hands as his systematic autocratic dividing quest continues. I suspect it won’t be for the first time.

bucolic_frolic

(43,190 posts)
57. Culture of fear
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 12:44 PM
Aug 2018

We cannot succumb to such tactics

If you allow them to triumph with such strategy, you'll only get more of it.

Permanut

(5,613 posts)
61. Katy Tur has great courage..
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 03:49 PM
Aug 2018

as do others who stand up to Mango Mussolini. They are national treasures.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
62. So now you begin to think maybe parroting the GOPs false equivalency for decades
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 04:45 PM
Aug 2018

maybe wasn't such a good thing after all. I mean sure it helps your network's ratings and the stockholders love it, but now that they've actually started shooting at journalists you start to think you maybe should have said something when they were still only attacking people of color and accusing Dems of running child slavery rings out of pizza restaraunts.

Not to slam Ms. Tur or anyone else specifically, it's just the media has become a travesty.

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