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Demovictory9

(32,468 posts)
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 01:51 AM Aug 2018

It's True: Trump Is Lying More, and He's Doing It on Purpose, lies are his political "secret sauce"

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/trumps-escalating-war-on-the-truth-is-on-purpose


History books will likely declare the last few months a turning point in the Trump Presidency, and Kessler’s laborious work gives us metrics that confirm what is becoming more and more apparent: the recent wave of misstatements is both a reflection of Trump’s increasingly unbound Presidency and a signal attribute of it. The upsurge provides empirical evidence that Trump, in recent months, has felt more confident running his White House as he pleases, keeping his own counsel, and saying and doing what he wants when he wants to. The fact that Trump, while historically unpopular with the American public as a whole, has retained the loyalty of more than eighty per cent of Republicans—the group at which his lies seem to be aimed—means we are in for much more, as a midterm election approaches that may determine whether Trump is impeached by a newly Democratic Congress. At this point, the falsehoods are as much a part of his political identity as his floppy orange hair and the “Make America Great Again” slogan. The untruths, Kessler told me, are Trump’s political “secret sauce.”

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other metrics make clear the significant changes in Trump’s approach to the Presidency in recent months, as he has become more confident, less willing to tolerate advisers who challenge him, and increasingly obsessed with the threats to his Presidency posed by the ongoing special-counsel investigation. One is the epic turnover rate of Trump’s White House staff, which as of June already stood at the unprecedented level of sixty-one per cent among the President’s top advisers.
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It's True: Trump Is Lying More, and He's Doing It on Purpose, lies are his political "secret sauce" (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2018 OP
"He's far worse than Nixon. Certainly as a threat to the country." dalton99a Aug 2018 #1
He's a cult leader. Everything he does follows the cult leader workbook. Kablooie Aug 2018 #2
FUCK trump's "secret sauce".. it only works on Cha Aug 2018 #3
he uses repetition KT2000 Aug 2018 #4
Putin is his coach. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #5
trump's day so far.. August 3rd.. Cha Aug 2018 #9
The top two alone made my weekend a lot better! BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #10
Here's a psychiatrists talking about trumps mental conditions duforsure Aug 2018 #6
That was good...I knew the moron is BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #11
I know good writing demands that you use synonyms instead of repeating a word, but... Beartracks Aug 2018 #7
trump's day so far.. Cha Aug 2018 #8

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)
1. "He's far worse than Nixon. Certainly as a threat to the country."
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 01:57 AM
Aug 2018
The previous gold standard in Presidential lying was, of course, Richard Nixon. Barry Goldwater, the Republican Presidential nominee four years before Nixon won the White House in 1968, famously called Nixon “the most dishonest individual I ever met in my life.” Writing in his memoirs, Goldwater observed that Nixon “lied to his wife, his family, his friends, longtime colleagues in the U.S. Congress, lifetime members of his own political party, the American people, and the world.”

There have been comparisons between Nixon and Trump since Trump first entered office, but these, too, have escalated in recent months as the President has been shadowed by the threat of the ongoing special-counsel investigation into the electronic break-in of the Democratic National Committee (another eerie Watergate echo) and whether Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia. Trump’s obsession with the special counsel, Robert Mueller, also comes with metrics: he has called the Mueller probe a “witch hunt” on Twitter more than twenty-one times a month on average this spring and summer, compared with an average of just three times a month in the previous nine months.

Another commonality between Nixon and Trump is their obsession with the press as an enemy or, in Trump’s phrase “enemies of the people.” Nixon went so far as to order his White House staff to create an actual “enemies list,” a document with twenty names on it, which was released as part of the Watergate hearings. Reporters like CBS’s Daniel Schorr featured prominently on it. When Sanders announced at her press briefing last week that Trump was considering stripping the security clearances of six former senior U.S. officials who have emerged as scathing Trump critics, many made immediate comparisons to Nixon’s list. “An enemies list is ugly, undemocratic, and un-American,” Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, responded.

Only three members of Nixon’s enemies list are still alive. (Ron Dellums, a former member of Congress particularly loathed by Nixon for his anti-war protests and militant civil-rights activism, died on Monday.) I called one of them, Morton Halperin, to ask what he thought of the proliferating Trump-Nixon comparisons. Halperin, who oversaw the writing of the Pentagon Papers and then served on Nixon’s National Security Council staff before breaking with him over the invasion of Cambodia, sued when he found out that Nixon had secretly taped him and others in the White House. Over the years, he has been one of Nixon’s proudest and most persistent enemies. So I was surprised when Halperin insisted, strongly, that Nixon wasn’t nearly as damaging to the institution of the Presidency as Trump has been. “He’s far worse than Nixon,” Halperin told me, “certainly as a threat to the country.”

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
2. He's a cult leader. Everything he does follows the cult leader workbook.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 02:32 AM
Aug 2018

And his followers have responded exactly like cult members are supposed to do.

BigmanPigman

(51,622 posts)
11. That was good...I knew the moron is
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 04:17 PM
Aug 2018

A narcissist and a sociopath, but I forgot the third personality disorder/condition. Sadism. He DOES enjoy harming others. I thought he was just "a sick muther" but "sadist" is more appropriate. I read a good article about the 25th Amend and how the corrupt cabinet would never use it since they are getting rich(er) off of him and they are personally invested in the Russian hacking and are enablers in the conspiracy to attack the elections.

He is worried that the midterms will also be hacked and voting manipulated since the GOP is not doing anything to stop it.

Beartracks

(12,820 posts)
7. I know good writing demands that you use synonyms instead of repeating a word, but...
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 04:44 AM
Aug 2018

... this one paragraph has "lies," "untruths," "misstatements," and "falsehoods" in it. They're all, in fact, "lies," but the other words -- "untruths," "misstatements," and "falsehoods" -- sound like mischief or accidents. They're lies. A little repetition wouldn't hurt:

History books will likely declare the last few months a turning point in the Trump Presidency, and Kessler’s laborious work gives us metrics that confirm what is becoming more and more apparent: the recent wave of LIES is both a reflection of Trump’s increasingly unbound Presidency and a signal attribute of it. The upsurge provides empirical evidence that Trump, in recent months, has felt more confident running his White House as he pleases, keeping his own counsel, and saying and doing what he wants when he wants to. The fact that Trump, while historically unpopular with the American public as a whole, has retained the loyalty of more than eighty per cent of Republicans—the group at which his lies seem to be aimed—means we are in for much more, as a midterm election approaches that may determine whether Trump is impeached by a newly Democratic Congress. At this point, the LIES are as much a part of his political identity as his floppy orange hair and the “Make America Great Again” slogan. The LIES, Kessler told me, are Trump’s political “secret sauce.”

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