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turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:08 PM Aug 2018

Airline pilots protest a study on allowing cargo planes to be operated by only one pilot with remote

By HUGO MARTIN AUG 04, 2018 | 6:00 AM

Unions representing nearly 50 commercial airlines have launched a protest against federal legislation to study the idea of putting cargo planes in the hands of only one pilot with the help of remote-control pilots on the ground.

But this dispute includes a big mystery: Officials of pilots unions don’t know who put the language in the Federal Aviation Administration funding bill to study the idea of one pilot per cargo plane or for what reason. The FAA bill sets aside $128.5 million to research the concept, along with other topics of research.

The pilots unions, representing more than 100,000 pilots, say they are opposed to the idea of eliminating a co-pilot from a commercial cargo plane because the task of flying a jet, communicating with air traffic controllers and monitoring weather changes requires two trained pilots.

The unions also say remote-control flying is vulnerable to glitches and computer hackers.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-travel-briefcase-remote-pilots-20180804-story.html

As someone who had worked in the industry for 25+ years........................this the most stupidest thing I have ever heard of.............sitting at some console on the ground while your buddy is in the air................does not save you money.........I will not get on a plane if there is only one pilot..........................and I want to know who got this language put in the FAA bill.......................and I am going to call my representative that "did Not" read this language, they just signed off on the POS paper...................


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Airline pilots protest a study on allowing cargo planes to be operated by only one pilot with remote (Original Post) turbinetree Aug 2018 OP
"I will not get on a plane if there is only one pilot"? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2018 #1
I don't want a one-pilot Cargo plane flying over top of me. James48 Aug 2018 #2
The proposal is for cargo planes only but it's still a colossally dumb idea. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #3
This is called "the camel's nose in the tent" flotsam Aug 2018 #4
Trump wants to destroy the government. Turbineguy Aug 2018 #5

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
1. "I will not get on a plane if there is only one pilot"?
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:15 PM
Aug 2018

These are cargo planes. So odds are slim that any of us will board such a plane.

I wonder how well a remote pilot can land one of these things, then taxi around the airport to the dock.

James48

(4,437 posts)
2. I don't want a one-pilot Cargo plane flying over top of me.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:22 PM
Aug 2018

Think what happens if its a UPS Boeing 757. And the pilot has a stroke, and the ground “assistant pilot” has a communication glitch. Like his modem is hacked and blocked.

Or an Air Cargo DC-9 carrying tens of thousands of pounds of cargo-

I don’t want them crashing into my neighborhood.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,800 posts)
3. The proposal is for cargo planes only but it's still a colossally dumb idea.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:22 PM
Aug 2018

As automated as modern jets are, if something goes wrong you're going to need two people to manage the emergency, especially if it involves something like fire or sudden decompression - where a remote operator will be no help at all. And sooner or later something will go wrong; it always does. I hope this knuckleheaded idea gets nipped in the bud right now.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
4. This is called "the camel's nose in the tent"
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 07:41 PM
Aug 2018

and there are two things you better understand-the actual idea is for the qualified pilot on the ground will eventually become copilot for multiple flights concurrently saving salary and benefits of the "missing man" and every couple of months no disaster ensues they will add to the number of flights he can copilot.By the first time a cargo plane crashes and burns from lacking a second actual human they hope single pilot will be the norm and that incident fades. Meanwhile if the cargo deal is successful why wouldn't that prove copilots actually aboard passenger planes are a costly waste caused by needless government regulation.pr

Turbineguy

(37,361 posts)
5. Trump wants to destroy the government.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 08:23 PM
Aug 2018

If you spend $128.5 million on something stupid and destructive, you won't have the money to do something good.

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