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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeriously. Giuliani is the worst lawyer ever:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/4/1785917/-As-Russia-probe-continues-Trump-continues-to-slide-into-frustration-fury-and-panicAs a lawyer it's your job to ask your client if the other side will come up with something incriminating.
It's NOT your job to convince your client that there is nothing incriminating.
OnDoutside
(19,965 posts)than he ever was. There is no way Trump is convinced of the above. No way.
Wounded Bear
(58,685 posts)It's one of the primary ways he gets in trouble.
If Ghouliani told him that, it was because it was what Trump wanted to hear and believe.
Hopefully, reality will bite Trump in the ass without getting too many Americans killed.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)Cohen, Kasowitz, Sekulow, and now Giuliani. That's probably because the good ones wanted nothing to do with him.
Trump Lawyers practice Trump Law. Trump Law is not about the merits of a case or even its resolution. It doesnt matter if youre threatening to sue, suing or being sued yourself. What matters is that you dominate, or be seen as dominating. In Trump Law, you can lose and still win, or at least declare victory, as Trump did after losing his defamation suit against the author Timothy OBrien, claiming, falsely, that he had succeeded in his goal of costing OBrien a lot of money. Trump and Kasowitz saw our litigation as a form of guerrilla warfare, I think, and were less concerned about facts and the law, says OBrien, whose publisher covered all of his legal expenses. After the suit was filed, OBrien realized that he had met Kasowitz before: The lawyer had been in the audience at one of his readings and told OBrien afterward elliptically at the time, ominously in retrospect that they would be seeing each other again.
Trump Law is theater. What matters most is showmanship. The proof that the president-elect was relinquishing control of his companies before taking the oath of office was right there in the stacks of manila folders piled up beside him at the pre-inauguration news conference inside Trump Tower. Don Jr. and Eric Trump, who would be taking over the Trump Organization, watched solemnly as Sheri Dillon gestured at the files, explaining that they contained just some of the paperwork that would ensure that President Trump would be completely isolated from the businesses. Were the pages inside actually blank? In the world of Trump Law, thats irrelevant.
...Trump Law does not concern itself with how youre supposed to do things. Donald would say, I hate lawyers who tell me that I cant do this or that,? Goldberg told me. And so Trump Lawyers dont. It was an arrangement that worked for Trump and his legal teams for years. And so it continues in Washington. Under Trump Law, it is perfectly fine for the president of China to stay as a guest at Mar-a-Lago, for the lobbying arm of the Saudi government to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars at Trumps Washington hotel, for Trump to have a private dinner with the director of the F.B.I., James Comey, even as his agency was investigating Trumps campaign. Under Trump Law, it is O.K. for Trump not to divest himself of his assets or place them in a blind trust, and for the drafting and rollout of his Muslim travel ban to be overseen not by experienced government lawyers but by his 31-year-old senior adviser, Stephen Miller. Under Trump Law, Trump can appoint a national security adviser, Gen. Michael Flynn, who had worked secretly as a paid lobbyist for Turkey, and fire Comey, as he himself explained, to relieve the pressure of the Russia investigation.
underpants
(182,863 posts)Cohn's death was the beginning of his big fish small pond era.
treestar
(82,383 posts)If it means anything, it should be used against the Orange One and his lawyers. Thats an admission of guilt where he says the purpose was to cost the other side money.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)I'm surprised they still have licenses.
Turbineguy
(37,361 posts)So they're a real team.
They deserve each other.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)is incompetent and made numerous fatal errors in the defense.