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Demovictory9

(32,479 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 12:53 AM Aug 2018

Trump. "a ravenous maw of grievance and invective", "attacking perceived enemies w intensifying fury

Yet in public, Trump is a man roaring. The president, more than ever, is channeling his internal frustration and fear into a ravenous maw of grievance and invective. He is churning out false statements with greater frequency and attacking his perceived enemies with intensifying fury. A fresh broadside came on Twitter at 11:37 p.m. Friday, mocking basketball superstar LeBron James and calling CNN’s Don Lemon “the dumbest man on television.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-at-a-precarious-moment-in-his-presidency-privately-brooding-and-publicly-roaring/2018/08/04/4b463842-9736-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html?utm_term=.8d87f7380eae


Trump at a precarious moment in his presidency: Privately brooding and publicly roaring

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Trump. "a ravenous maw of grievance and invective", "attacking perceived enemies w intensifying fury (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2018 OP
I no longer care about his rants and raves. vlyons Aug 2018 #1
It's difficult for me to disagree with your points... Eyeball_Kid Aug 2018 #2
you're not understanding karma vlyons Aug 2018 #6
I hope he gets his just deserts. rusty quoin Aug 2018 #3
"is an important lesson about how hatred and anger are poison." yonder Aug 2018 #4
I can honestly say that I do not hate Trump. vlyons Aug 2018 #7
* 'appears' to be an instrument of the enemy of our souls. sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #5
He's worried Botany Aug 2018 #8
His definition of innocent and decent people are those of similar greed and self-serving interests onetexan Aug 2018 #9
A good explanation on why he's acting this way duforsure Aug 2018 #10
Good phraseology from the Post's writer. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #11

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. I no longer care about his rants and raves.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:09 AM
Aug 2018

I guess I'll see clips of his Ohio rally on the news tomorrow. But they won't be any different that the last one, or the next one, or the one after that. He has simply become tiresome. He despERATELY needs some thorzine or a pre-frontal lobatomy to calm him down. Maybe a course of electro-shock therapy? As a Buddhist, I'm supposed to feel compassion for him, and in a way, I do. But in truth, what I see is the infallibility of the karmic law of cause and effect. His lack of self control and its effects on others, who similarly lack self control, is an important lesson about how hatred and anger are poison. We must all remain calm and practice patience, while we diligently organize and work to elect Dems in Nov. Remaining calm and focused on what we must do is what self control is all about and the benefits it grants us.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
2. It's difficult for me to disagree with your points...
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:58 AM
Aug 2018

except for one. IMO, this karma thing is overrated. Yeah,
I know that there must be anecdotals everywhere, but fundamentally, you’re expressing an article of faith. It’s like the article of faith that Donald is leading us to the Awakening, whatever that is. The concept of karma nearly requires passivity. We can sit by and watch Karma do it’s duty, for Karma is obliged to find a place in the center, to nullify evil in the longer term, if necessary. Now, I don’t know squat about Buddhism. I’m making an interpretation of how the term is used in everyday language. I guess I don’t see Karma as a force that regards, in any way, the destiny of the species or the planet.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
6. you're not understanding karma
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:25 AM
Aug 2018

karma is a sanskit word that translates as "action." All phenomena arise from previous causes and conditions. All actions result in future consequences. I think of it as good decisions tend to have good outcomes, and bad decisions tend to have bad outcomes. Our actions have consequences. When we use speech to spew anger and hatred, as in the case of a Donald Trump, is it any wonder that such speech riles up the anger and hatred in his crowds? Karma is not "passive," although it can be complicated and make take time to completely unfold. Donald Trump's crimes will eventually be found out. How their discovery unfolds is yet to been seen. I have every confidence that his crimes will bear unhappy consequences for him and for those, who enable him. Karma is just like gravity; it never stops working.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
3. I hope he gets his just deserts.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:02 AM
Aug 2018

A person who is that destructive to others deserves no kindness or sorrow. I won’t celebrate his downfall, like in the assasination of Osama bin Laden which so many did, but I will never shed a tear for him.

yonder

(9,679 posts)
4. "is an important lesson about how hatred and anger are poison."
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:10 AM
Aug 2018

As many others surely feel, I find it harder and harder to keep from being sucked into that trap.

Thanks for the strong, steady, re-centering words.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
7. I can honestly say that I do not hate Trump.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:33 AM
Aug 2018

But that does not mean that I cannot see his vulgarity, bigotry, stupidity, mendacity, and criminality. I don't need to forgive him. His words and deeds will bear their own unhappy consequences.

sprinkleeninow

(20,267 posts)
5. * 'appears' to be an instrument of the enemy of our souls.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:52 AM
Aug 2018

As a human being, I pretty much do not have hatred towards him. I refuse to let that sap my strength and well-being.

Sure, it nearly brings me to the brink of my endurance and to the border of unrelenting stress he is the causation of.

But then, professing the Christian Faith, I submit to leaving * to a 'judgment' not of my own.

Botany

(70,592 posts)
8. He's worried
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:48 AM
Aug 2018

Still, Trump has confided to friends and advisers that he is worried the Mueller probe could destroy the lives of what he calls “innocent and decent people” — namely Trump Jr., who is under scrutiny by Mueller for his role organizing a June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with Russians promising dirt on Hillary Clinton. As one adviser described the president’s thinking, he does not believe his son purposefully broke the law, but is fearful nonetheless that Trump Jr. inadvertently may have wandered into legal ­jeopardy.

onetexan

(13,066 posts)
9. His definition of innocent and decent people are those of similar greed and self-serving interests
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 05:59 AM
Aug 2018

like him. And of course his kids fall into that category. Apple usually doesnt fall far from the tree.

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