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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, what's up with Hope Hicks?
Link to tweet
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Seth Abramson
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@SethAbramson
*WITNESS TAMPERING IN 5 STEPS*
1. Trump knows Hicks is a witness in a federal case.
2. He's been told he mustn't speak to her.
3. His chief topic in public and private is the Russia probe.
4. Hicks is on a plane with Trump right now.
5. Trump is tampering with a federal witness.
3:37 PM - Aug 4, 2018
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,941 posts)A wife cannot be compelled to testify against her husband.
rurallib
(62,455 posts)Hugin
(33,222 posts)Witness tampering! Of course, the Yellow Slobmarine will claim he invented it...
I'm sure when asked, he will claim he was getting her to steam his pants as only she is able.
I hope they keep it up, the legal fees are breaking the RNC and the NRA.
Old Yeller!!!
Stealing!
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)From oafish, crass behavior, mocking disabled persons, abusing women, racist bullshit, elitist arrogance, global stupidity to blatant treason, open corruption and pathological lying that promotes violence.
If and when it comes down on him, I want his humiliation to be very public, very long lasting and
Loud.
Jersey Devil
(9,875 posts)While I agree it is stupid for Trump to talk to Hicks since she has spoken to prosecutors and leaves himself open to charges if he encourages her to lie, there is no prohibition that would prevent him from talking to her. No one has told Trump he "mustn't speak to her"?
Just talking to a federal witness is not "tampering". That would only occur if the witness was told to lie. Even an indicted defendant has the right to talk to witnesses as long as he doesn't try to get them to give false testimony.
pazzyanne
(6,558 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,875 posts)He wasn't jailed just because he talked to them. He was sending them coded messages telling them how he wanted them to testify.
There is no prohibition against talking to witnesses. In fact, a defense team that does not would probably be open to charges of legal malpractice.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,875 posts)So if I say something you disagree with I am pro Trump? Grow up.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,875 posts)I've talked to hundreds of witnesses in criminal cases. You want to find out what witnesses will say in court before the trial. What law school did you go to?
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Pluvious
(4,323 posts)Many of us appreciate hearing facts on topics we're ignorant about.
These are challenging times for all of us.
Zeus be with you
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)MagickMuffin
(15,960 posts)And he doesn't care, Do you? (Sorry couldn't help myself!)
He uses his stooges to help himself, so, who knows what they discussed?
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,534 posts)I still think its worth reporting on these incidents, however. There have been so many provable lies that have been told and such a complicated trail of contacts that it makes me suspicious of all their actions.
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)radical noodle
(8,013 posts)They may have been trying to use her to calm him down. Apparently, (proven by this morning's tweet) it didn't work as well as they'd hoped.
louis c
(8,652 posts)ananda
(28,879 posts)I wonder why...
rainin
(3,011 posts)The kids - I get it. He's their dad and they love him and think he's grand.
The republican leadership is scared of him.
His cabinet get to have super fun being important.
The low life crowd either see someone who finally tells their truth, that whites are under threat or they are profoundly ignorant. (Case in point, the veteran trump voter who deployed three times only to be deported. His wife said he believed when trump said he "loved veterans".)
His rich friends are digging the tax cuts, the deregulation, and the destruction of government agencies.
But Hope Hicks? Surely she can get a better lay.
FakeNoose
(32,786 posts)She had several opportunities to leave the fold, but she stayed working for him until she had to leave. It was after she was questioned by Mueller, when she probably realized how much trouble she could be in. I don't think Cheeto's interest in her is sexual, he thinks of her as (almost) one of the family.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,785 posts)She says...Need me some wrinkles and blubber, miss the smell of MickeyD breath in the morning.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)face consequence for this. That's my question and I think I know the answer but I'll wait...
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B) alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the objects integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D) be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process; or
(3) hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation [1] supervised release,,[1] parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
If Hope Hicks and Trump discussed any elements of the ongoing investigation and Trump attempted to persuade certain testimony from her, and this can be proven in a court of law....Trumpie is in deep doo doo. That may be a lot of ifs, though. Unless she was wearing a wire.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)the Trump clan to ever consider wearing a wire.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)Maybe she made some sort of deal? I still doubt she'd wear a wire, but she might blab about what the conversation was with -45 on Air Force One.
Just some wishful thinking on my part.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)for Bill Clinton, not holding office, to meet on the tarmac with AG Loretta Lynch, while there is nothing wrong with Trump and Hicks meeting in private while a real investigation is ongoing.
Who really drafted the adoption story?
Rorey
(8,445 posts)PunksMom
(440 posts)...because no one EVER holds this guy accountable for ANYTHING...Legal or not! He truly does & says what he wants because he can. What a nice life huh?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)struggle4progress
(118,359 posts)Blue Owl
(50,522 posts)n/t
colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)Hope was on AF1 when the "Russian orphans alibi" was contrived. She assured him that no one would ever find out.