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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:33 PM Aug 2018

The Day Trump Told Us There Was Attempted Collusion with Russia

The Day Trump Told Us There Was Attempted Collusion with Russia
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The tweet contains several crucial pieces of information. First, it is a clear admission that Donald Trump, Jr.,’s original statement about the case was inaccurate enough to be considered a lie. He had said the meeting was with an unknown person who “might have information helpful to the campaign,” and that this person “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children.” This false statement was, according to his legal team, dictated by the President himself. There was good reason to mislead the American people about that meeting. Based on reporting—at the time and now—of the President’s admission, it was a conscious effort by the President’s son and two of his closest advisers to work with affiliates of the Russian government to obtain information that might sway the U.S. election in Trump’s favor. In short, it was, at minimum, a case of attempted collusion. The tweet indicates that Trump’s defense will continue to be that this attempt at collusion failed—“it went nowhere”—and that, even if it had succeeded, it would have been “totally legal and done all the time.” It is unclear why, if the meeting was entirely proper, it was important for the President to declare “I did not know about it!” or to tell the Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, to “stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now.”

The President’s Sunday-morning tweet should be seen as a turning point. It doesn’t teach us anything new—most students of the case already understand what Donald Trump, Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner knew about that Trump Tower meeting. But it ends any possibility of an alternative explanation. We can all move forward understanding that there is a clear fact pattern about which there is no dispute:

The President’s son and top advisers knowingly met with individuals connected to the Russian government, hoping to obtain dirt on their political opponent.

Documents stolen from the Democratic National Committee and members of the Clinton campaign were later used in an overt effort to sway the election.

When the Trump Tower meeting was uncovered, the President instructed his son and staff to lie about the meeting, and told them precisely which lies to use.

The President is attempting to end the investigation into this meeting and other instances of attempted collusion between his campaign staff and representatives of the Russian government.


It was possible, just days ago, to believe—with an abundance of generosity toward the President and his team—that the meeting was about adoption, went nowhere, and was overblown by the Administration’s enemies. No longer. The open questions are now far more narrow: Was this a case of successful or only attempted collusion? Is attempted collusion a crime? What legal and moral responsibilities did the President and his team have when they realized that the proposed collusion was underway when the D.N.C. e-mails were leaked and published? And, crucially, what did the President know before the election, after it, and when he instructed his son to lie?

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The Day Trump Told Us There Was Attempted Collusion with Russia (Original Post) dajoki Aug 2018 OP
Attempted? Johnny2X2X Aug 2018 #1
Yup. Should read, "The day Trump admitted to a campaign conspiracy." marylandblue Aug 2018 #2
K&R uppityperson Aug 2018 #3

Johnny2X2X

(19,118 posts)
1. Attempted?
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:37 PM
Aug 2018

They were writing speeches based on Russian leaks and fake news stories. This type of coordination was more than collusion, they were partners.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
2. Yup. Should read, "The day Trump admitted to a campaign conspiracy."
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:54 PM
Aug 2018

Only thing he didn't admit was knowing anything about it, but that will come.

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