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Don't ever forget that The Russians wanted something in return for offering dirt on Hillary! (Original Post) Vinnie From Indy Aug 2018 OP
indeed! as coach used to say... bringthePaine Aug 2018 #1
Ye olde 'Quid Pro Quo' (R) Achilleaze Aug 2018 #2
I agree duforsure Aug 2018 #3
To also get the Magnitsky Act rescinded. nt ancianita Aug 2018 #4
And to disrupt NATO, NAFTA, EU, TPP, Group of 7, leave Assad, let China expand in Africa, .... nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #5
Fucking Traitor watoos Aug 2018 #6
"we need enough Republicans to do the right thing." blue-wave Aug 2018 #7
Mueller's report watoos Aug 2018 #8
This is True blue-wave Aug 2018 #9
Or just let him resign. greymattermom Aug 2018 #20
If Democrats can retake the House NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #11
Besides the sanctions being lifted, weakening America, and NATO Russia wanted and got ... Botany Aug 2018 #10
What is even worse watoos Aug 2018 #12
They got it! Racerdog1 Aug 2018 #13
100% Correct! UCmeNdc Aug 2018 #14
From the evidence so far here's the demands, lark Aug 2018 #15
With All of the Endless Searches for "Dirt on Hillary," What Exactly Was the Dirt, Itself? dlk Aug 2018 #16
Guess you weren't around when Assange's Wikileaks released... brush Aug 2018 #23
The thing is, the emails were, by and large, lacking in any political info or "dirt"... Wounded Bear Aug 2018 #24
Exactly right. But the way the press played it up, the repugs, and Angela Mitchell... brush Aug 2018 #26
Yes, they wanted America! Initech Aug 2018 #17
Well, they wanted Trump to win because even they knew he was a major fuck up. Kaleva Aug 2018 #18
Putting money into Trump was the best investment Putin ever made. keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #19
They wanted the magnitsky sancrions lifted Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #21
We didn't do it though - Magnitsky is still in place FakeNoose Aug 2018 #22
Magnetiski is small potatoes compared to the oil embargo... Wounded Bear Aug 2018 #25
Yes, an estimated near-trillion dollars of oil that can't be accessed... brush Aug 2018 #27
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. Fucking Traitor
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:08 AM
Aug 2018

He has partnered with the Cosa Nostra and Russian mob his entire life. He was never held accountable for all of his law breaking, until now. He is a pathetic, very afraid "man" right now. When Mueller releases his bombshell report we need enough Republicans to do the right thing.

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
7. "we need enough Republicans to do the right thing."
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:23 AM
Aug 2018

That won't happen.

We need lots and lots of Democrats elected this midterm election. That way, we won't need any of the GOPee traitors. Work to GOTV!!!!!!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. Mueller's report
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:31 AM
Aug 2018

is going to be earth shattering. We can impeach Trump in the House when we gain control, but we need enough Republicans in the Senate to do the right thing to convict. Once Trump is out of office he can be indicted and convicted without having to go through the right wing SC.

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
9. This is True
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:41 AM
Aug 2018

We need 2/3rds in the Senate to convict, don't we? If only we had 2/3rds with "D's".....but that's a dream, I know.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
20. Or just let him resign.
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 09:35 AM
Aug 2018

And maybe keep Junior out of jail, or at least reduce his sentence. So, is Ivanka involved? Maybe keeping her out of jail would get him to resign. Make him promise to spend the rest of his life on the golf course at Trump properties.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
11. If Democrats can retake the House
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:49 AM
Aug 2018

I think televised public hearings where morons like Don Jr, Jared Kushner, Carter Page and others testify before sharp questioners like Ted Lieu, Gerry Nadler, etc will cause public support for Donny Dollhands to shrink, if not plummet. Especially if they start throwing each other under the bus to save their own asses.

Once that happens, Republicans may be emboldened to turn on Trump and it could swing votes in the Senate to "Guilty" if it comes to convicting for impeachment indictments.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
10. Besides the sanctions being lifted, weakening America, and NATO Russia wanted and got ...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:42 AM
Aug 2018

... a man they owned in the White House. Trump is working for Russia end of story.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. What is even worse
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:56 AM
Aug 2018

there are millions of his followers, so called Americans, who don't care if Russia is working with Trump as long as Republicans (real Americans) get elected.
I live in Alabama, half way between Pittsburgh and Philly, and "my friends" are scary. They love Trump. These people have been here before Trump, he just gave them the freedom to come out of the shadows. My 85 year old golfing buddy is a Korean war vet, he does Meals on Wheels, he does military funerals, and he told me the biggest mistake our country ever made was giving women the right to vote.

These people will not change but we need to make sure that the rest of us drown them out, overwhelm their bigotry.

This is the biggest election in our history. VOTE.

lark

(23,134 posts)
15. From the evidence so far here's the demands,
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 09:20 AM
Aug 2018

1 - Fuck up the US economy so that business goes to Russia instead of us - Russia got a 2 billion $$ soybean contract from China, previously held by US after tariffs were raise
2 - Remove all sanctions. Since drumpf couldn't do this he fired the entire staff so there is no group to implement the sanctions and none have been put in place. A Russian on the list was seen at the WH not long after drumpf fired the staff that would keep him out of the US.
3 - Probably most importantly, get NATO out of the way of Russia. He's working diligently on that, lying all the way, but getting huge pushback from some cabinet members. Of course, there is still the imminent threat that Russia would invade and drumpf would refuse to honor our treaty because, after all, it's only Ukraine and lots of people there speak Russian.
4 - Weaken liberal democracies & push towards fascism every way possible. He's doing that with Brexit and EU & Canadian tariffs.
5 - Weaken America by exploding racial tensions, labor laws & education. Destroy the middle class by ending unions, removing any healthcare assistance by government, stealing their Medicare and SS money for rich and allowing big pharma to charge totally exorbitant prices for Medicare and not allowing Medicare to negotiate better prices, which Tricare and other insurance plans can do.

I suspect the list is even worse and includes destroying the free press and judiciary and suspending the constitution.

dlk

(11,574 posts)
16. With All of the Endless Searches for "Dirt on Hillary," What Exactly Was the Dirt, Itself?
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 09:23 AM
Aug 2018

I don't remember reading of any, other than false and bizarre conspiracy theories. Funny that.

brush

(53,801 posts)
23. Guess you weren't around when Assange's Wikileaks released...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:05 AM
Aug 2018

began releasing DNC emails at the height of the 2016 campaign one hour after the surfacing of the "Access Hollywood" tapes where trump admitted to grabbing the genitals of women.

That my friend, was no coincident.

What it is is evidence of collusion right before our eyes, just like the trump tower meeting.

Wounded Bear

(58,676 posts)
24. The thing is, the emails were, by and large, lacking in any political info or "dirt"...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:09 AM
Aug 2018

In the end, there wasn't much "there" there. It was a bunch of personal emails between co-workers, with some strategies and comments that in and of themselves had zero political meaning.

The whole shit-a-roo was a nothing burger amplified by the press into a boogeyman that the RW used to leverage 100k people in 3 states to swing the election.

brush

(53,801 posts)
26. Exactly right. But the way the press played it up, the repugs, and Angela Mitchell...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:18 AM
Aug 2018

and all the rest were able to keep saying "but what about her emails" for the rest of the campaign.

Kaleva

(36,318 posts)
18. Well, they wanted Trump to win because even they knew he was a major fuck up.
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 09:27 AM
Aug 2018

Too bad so many Americans couldn't see the obvious.

FakeNoose

(32,680 posts)
22. We didn't do it though - Magnitsky is still in place
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:16 AM
Aug 2018

Also several other western European nations have made their own Magnitsky laws.
Russian oligarchs' money is being tied up in many countries now. It's costing them billions.

Wounded Bear

(58,676 posts)
25. Magnetiski is small potatoes compared to the oil embargo...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:11 AM
Aug 2018

Putin wanted the sanctions lifted so he could get Standard Oil co-operation to drill for Arctic/Siberian oil.

brush

(53,801 posts)
27. Yes, an estimated near-trillion dollars of oil that can't be accessed...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:23 AM
Aug 2018

because of sanctions that trump hasn't been able to discontinue.

BTW, that potential oil deal is why oilman Rex Tillerson was Sec't of State.

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