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can I post this? To hell with it I will
http://pleasecutthecrap.com/the-cult-of-bernie/ Just an opinion...not mine just an opinion on our Party....
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)snowybirdie
(5,231 posts)is not a Democrat. Thank you
heaven05
(18,124 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)"This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders)."
Edit to add: At least that's what it says in the rules.
snowybirdie
(5,231 posts)How is saying he's not a Democrat fall under the term bash? Pointing out a truth as he's registered as an independent officially. He's a good man with a good message, but has few realistic plans to follow through with resolving these issues. This year we have to stick together and not splinter. Don't you agree?
lapfog_1
(29,215 posts)every DU jury I get selected for on a thread that is unflattering to Bernie and the alert is "don't bash Democratic figures" I feel obligated to vote that the alert is in error and to let the post stand.
I have asked for clarification on this from various people and have no received any guidance... so I have to go with the absolute reading of the rule. Bernie is not a Democrat.
BumRushDaShow
(129,228 posts)There is one part in there that I have been saying for awhile now.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)To very complex issues.
People like simplicity.no matter if accurate or not.
mopinko
(70,155 posts)for every complex problem there is an answer that is simple, appealing and WRONG.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Bernie, and his followers, not good for Dems in November. . . [imnho] . . .
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)So sick of the Bernie cult.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)and thank you for doing so. But be aware of alerts that are sure to follow. It's considered sacrilege by some to criticize The Bernie.
Gothmog
(145,427 posts)I like this article. Sanders has no real legislative accomplishments in the real world which is why I never took him seriously.
George II
(67,782 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)that we are fighting the Party of Putin instead of just the GOP. So many trying to drag down our Party from the inside and outside. I'm just thankful that our tent is so large that it will be impossible to beat us in November short of trump calling in the Spetsnaz. Then they will have a fight on their hands.
murielm99
(30,749 posts)pissing into the tent from the outside.
K&R for this article.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Then again, I got tsk tsked the other day for maligning The Bernie.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)a minor leader of a minor faction under a very large tent called the Democratic Party. Not the democratic-socialist party, The Democratic Party. Period. The media is trying to make this faction something IT WILL NEVER BE, the leadership of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. He likes simple, this is simple.
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heaven05
(18,124 posts)are about saving democracy. Am I correct on this read of what you wrote....and yes the Democratic Party is the only thing holding up the POP and his surrogates from destroying our democracy. Seems you have things ASS BACKWARDS.... but well.... have a good one
VOX
(22,976 posts)Bernie would very likely fare worse. Cant afford that in 2020, because thatd be the absolute end of democracy, if whatever-Republican wins. Over. Finished. Done.
Purity later, safety first.
egads
VOX
(22,976 posts)Whats the half-life of political purity in the face of full-on fascism, anyway?
Me.
(35,454 posts)I read this elsewhere and considered posting but didn't know if I was in the mood to be creamed. Loved this piece...thank you.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)just know right from wrong...thank you
Me.
(35,454 posts)but I'm giving you stars anyway
Cha
(297,418 posts)Yeah, Milt Shook was Not impressed with BS saying the Democratic Party was the party of "the 100% and Not of working people".. neither were a lot of other peeps.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I have not been impressed since 2015, glad to be of service. I got it elsewhere. From a friend....
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Absolutely the best "must read".
Applause meter is off the charts with this well written & honest claim to what Democrats have been observing since March 2015.
Its the magic slight of hand of Tad, we've been witnessing.
And its unbelievable that its all brought to us by "Money & Media".
And the whole pathetic show is finally being called out.
Greatest Page worthy post.
Thanks heaven05.
a friend gave me the heads up, I had to post it.... the truth will set us free....from....well you know
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Off it goes!!!
Thank you heaven05..🍃
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I found it elsewhere. A friend had posted it and I just could not ignore it.
spicysista
(1,663 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)brush
(53,801 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)it was obvious, especially with all we have been dealing with when it comes to that minor faction
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)I've sent it everywhere on twitter..
heaven05
(18,124 posts)set our Party free...corny..I know, but I think it is the only course of action at this perilous time in our Party and country. As I have been saying all along the Party faithful must continue to marginalize certain minor factions within the big tent of our Party. And to counteract the media speculation and exaggeration concerning 'rising stars' and their mentor(s). It's all optics, minus the truth most times. It's how we got trump as a potus.
Thank you for your help.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)"And to counteract the media speculation and exaggeration concerning 'rising stars' and their mentor(s). It's all optics, minus the truth most times. It's how we got trump as a potus. "
Well stated.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It really lays it all on the line.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Cha
(297,418 posts)Milt Shook to the front page of GD!
Iggo
(47,561 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)theaocp
(4,243 posts)I'd hate to think that Sanders has any followers who might vote Democratic this election. They might not vote at all. So, can we please put aside the lulz at the idealists and bring them into our tent without the tall glass of "I told you so"? It's as inspiring as gargling onion juice.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)if not, they set the precedent in 2016, not me. We got trump, partially it seems now because many thousands sat out the vote, didn't vote, they got trump too and celebrated. Oh yeah, I saw that. I won't be fooled again. I am done with this BS. Vote Democratic candidates or don't, your problem, not mine. good bye to this bullshit factionalism.
theaocp
(4,243 posts)Look I get it. People are easily divided. Why contribute to that after the contest is over? Pettiness? Ego? We have shit to get done between now and November. Get over your hatred of Sanders, work to bring his voters on the Democratic side, and celebrate in a few months. Or not and fail the purity test.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)an anger at seeing people trying to DESTROY our Party in favour of some agenda of a minor faction coming from minor leaders of that faction. Look you get over your obsession with loving Sanders. I do not like him, his tactics or obfuscation of truth about him and his faction. I am working for my Party. My candidate won yesterday in spite of the last minute last-ditch effort by Sanders and AOC to keep my candidate from winning. Thankfully our turnout overwhelmed the democratic-socialist side of challenges. Same with Sharice Davis.
His voters better come to the side that will unseat the republikans in November. I willl tell them nothing. They want to sit at home and whine and cry in their beer. Stomp their feet and not vote. I say that's their choice. They are adults, sometimes, so they should gird up their loins realize what a minor faction they are and join us. Otherwise the hell with them. Even though my candidate's experience and truthfulness made her the best choice, that "side" tried to derail her. I am done playing with them. They either vote or go sit in the corner and whine. If they vote fine, if not their choice. Yeah GOTV for November.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I think we all know who has contributed pettiness, ego gratification over qualified candidates. Yeah, I got my shit done yesterday. Overwhelmed the petty-ego faction. And I will keep working with other adults to get it done in November. The rest is up to the petty-ego faction and leaders. NOT ME!!!!!
theaocp
(4,243 posts)disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)elleng
(131,028 posts)No good reason I can think of.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Practically Perfect in Every Way.
melman
(7,681 posts)Maybe people tired of the obsession with Bernie Sanders...should stop being obsessed with Bernie Sanders.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)how magicians and carnival barkers draw em in, sleight of hand, lots of optics, and in the end NO SUBSTANCE. I read the whole thing. You just lose your money or faith in something. Yeah, they need to unify with our Party and quit being a minor irritant to our body politic.
R B Garr
(16,963 posts)people are confronting this with the resistance and realism that it has long deserved.