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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWeekend toll: 70 shot -- 11 fatally -- in Chicago gun violence
A weekend of gun violence in Chicago left at least 11 people dead and 59 wounded.
Three people were shot Friday evening, 14 were shot Saturday, 47 were shot Sunday and six were shot early Monday, capping off the weekend, which began 5 p.m. Friday and ended 5 a.m. Monday.
The violence reached a peak Sunday, when 30 people were shot during a three-hour span between midnight and 3 a.m. Eight shooting incidents that morning had three or more victims. A single shooting in Gresham wounded eight people, including four teenage girls, as they stood in a courtyard.
The influx of trauma patients at Stroger Hospital was so large Sunday morning, visitors of shooting victims were kept from entering, leaving them to congregate outside near a parking lot.
A teenage girl was killed and five other people, including an 11-year-old boy, were wounded early Sunday in Lawndale neighborhood shooting on the Southwest Side. About 2:35 a.m., several people were standing on a sidewalk in the 1300 block of South Millard Avenue when two males approached on foot and opened fire, according to police.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/weekend-toll-70-shot-11-fatally-in-chicago-gun-violence/
Three people were shot Friday evening, 14 were shot Saturday, 47 were shot Sunday and six were shot early Monday, capping off the weekend, which began 5 p.m. Friday and ended 5 a.m. Monday.
The violence reached a peak Sunday, when 30 people were shot during a three-hour span between midnight and 3 a.m. Eight shooting incidents that morning had three or more victims. A single shooting in Gresham wounded eight people, including four teenage girls, as they stood in a courtyard.
The influx of trauma patients at Stroger Hospital was so large Sunday morning, visitors of shooting victims were kept from entering, leaving them to congregate outside near a parking lot.
A teenage girl was killed and five other people, including an 11-year-old boy, were wounded early Sunday in Lawndale neighborhood shooting on the Southwest Side. About 2:35 a.m., several people were standing on a sidewalk in the 1300 block of South Millard Avenue when two males approached on foot and opened fire, according to police.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/weekend-toll-70-shot-11-fatally-in-chicago-gun-violence/
This should not be something we just accept as normal.
Here is a tribute to the 17 year old girl, Jahnae Patterson, who was fatally shot in the face.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/photos/ct-jahnae-patterson-vigil-shooting-chicago-photos-20180805-photogallery.html
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Weekend toll: 70 shot -- 11 fatally -- in Chicago gun violence (Original Post)
oberliner
Aug 2018
OP
Gun laws mostly, of course there's going to be gangs in any human city buts is the unfettered access
uponit7771
Aug 2018
#8
Yep, figured ... take away Indiana's guns and Chi Town has a normal level of saturation of guns ...
uponit7771
Aug 2018
#17
More laxed gun laws penalties and less LEOs per person than comparable Brooklyn (link)
uponit7771
Aug 2018
#27
My apologies. I didn't mean to disparage the tragedy of this massive number of lost lives.
aikoaiko
Aug 2018
#12
I think it's the shooting incidents which a lot of wingers point to that's the issue. The murder rat
uponit7771
Aug 2018
#10
Yeah, because shooting one another advances a person up into a higher socio-economic bracket.
Tipperary
Aug 2018
#11
I think you're underestimating the impact of centuries/decades of discrimination, bigotry, poverty,
aikoaiko
Aug 2018
#14
Houston Texas is pretty close to the Chicago population and has about 550 shootings per year.
braddy
Aug 2018
#18
Plenty, read the thread posts, it isn't Indiana gun laws causing this, it is Chicago causing it.
braddy
Aug 2018
#23
Nothing good happens on a street corner, during a hot summer night, between the hours of 2-5AM.
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2018
#30
Good question. A massive jobs program to get money into the community. Perhaps the
jalan48
Aug 2018
#33
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)1. Can some of the residents sue Indiana for their gun laws?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)2. Good question
Don't know the answer.
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)3. is it the gun laws or drug/gang violence that are causing this?
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)8. Gun laws mostly, of course there's going to be gangs in any human city buts is the unfettered access
... to guns from Indiana that's making this worse.
70 shootings is Brazil level violence
hack89
(39,171 posts)16. Seven of the top ten sources of illegal guns are in-state
40% of the illegal guns come from Illinois, 21% from Indiana
https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/chicago-gun-trace-report-2017-454016983.html
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)17. Yep, figured ... take away Indiana's guns and Chi Town has a normal level of saturation of guns ...
... my speculation.
I also figured Chi Town wasn't the source of the majority of weapons used in these shootings
hack89
(39,171 posts)26. Feel free to back up "normal level of saturation" with some facts. nt
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)27. More laxed gun laws penalties and less LEOs per person than comparable Brooklyn (link)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/18/us/chicago-murder-problem.html
It's not the overtly racist ass'd winger notion of blacks being lower kind of humans
It's not the overtly racist ass'd winger notion of blacks being lower kind of humans
Amishman
(5,558 posts)36. Its poverty, drugs, gangs, and especially lack of opportunity
If Indiana's gun laws were the problem, then Indiana would be a mortuary. Chicago has plenty of non-gun violence too.
The problem is the city has a lot of people who find it necessary to resort to crime and violence. I believe this is because the traditional paths to success have been closed to them. The only directions they can choose channel their ambition is onto criminal paths.
Chicago needs to spend less time setting up 'bait trucks' to arrest desperate poor people and more time developing the skills of those poor people and helping them open new paths to a better life.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)35. Don't ask the experts, ask the layman.
"I will not sit and wait for "experts" to tell me what to think. Sounds like a way to avoid critical thinking..."
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)4. "Can some of the residents sue Indiana for their gun laws?" No.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)5. Who is arguing we should?
"This should not be something we just accept as normal..."
Who is arguing we should? Or is that simply another place-holder sentiment?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)6. The people who aren't doing anything about it
are implicitly, through their inaction, accepting it as normal.
aikoaiko
(34,177 posts)7. Chicago doesn't have the worst murder rate but still in the top 25
We need social and economic justice to address the systemic reasons for these shootings/killings.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)9. This weekend in Chicago was particularly awful
The stories of these young people who lost their lives are just so heartbreaking.
This one really got to me:
Link to tweet
aikoaiko
(34,177 posts)12. My apologies. I didn't mean to disparage the tragedy of this massive number of lost lives.
Or the extraordinary tragedy of young people dying violently and needlessly.
I only meant to counteract the misperception, not your's but other's, that Chicago is the worst city for murders and shootings.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)13. An 8-year old boy was shot in North St. Louis last night also
Police are investigating a shooting that left an 8-year-old with a gunshot wound just before 8 p.m. Sunday in north St. Louis.
http://www.kmov.com/story/38816617/6-year-old-among-those-injured-in-north-st-louis-shooting-police-say
http://www.kmov.com/story/38816617/6-year-old-among-those-injured-in-north-st-louis-shooting-police-say
You can spend hours reading all these heartbreaking stories and it packs quite an emotional punch.
I agree with you that there are fundamental societal problems that must be addressed - it just seems like there is a national conversation that needs to be happening that isn't.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)10. I think it's the shooting incidents which a lot of wingers point to that's the issue. The murder rat
... rate is low relatively but the number of shootings is Brazil level
aikoaiko
(34,177 posts)15. I haven't seen any shooting indexes just homicide or suicide by gun.
Do you know one for shootings (whether they resulted in deaths or not).
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)11. Yeah, because shooting one another advances a person up into a higher socio-economic bracket.
Uh huh. 
aikoaiko
(34,177 posts)14. I think you're underestimating the impact of centuries/decades of discrimination, bigotry, poverty,
...limited resources/opportunities, and racism can have on a community.
braddy
(3,585 posts)18. Houston Texas is pretty close to the Chicago population and has about 550 shootings per year.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)19. What does Houston have to do with what happened in Chicago this weekend?
braddy
(3,585 posts)23. Plenty, read the thread posts, it isn't Indiana gun laws causing this, it is Chicago causing it.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)28. Brooklyn similar is similar size, higher penalty gun laws and more Leos.
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Kingofalldems
(38,466 posts)21. Looks like you already have an OP on this, oberliner.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210966630
OP could have been updated. Is there a reason for 2 OPs on the same subject?
OP could have been updated. Is there a reason for 2 OPs on the same subject?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)22. Three OPs - 2 in GD and 1 in LBN
Hopefully each of them at least as valuable and thought-provoking as posts about Trump possibly being late for tea with the Queen or what time Michael Avenatti is next going to be on television.
Kingofalldems
(38,466 posts)25. I don't think they are posted to be thought provoking.
Oh yes and I will continue to update DU on the fight against Donald Trump.
R B Garr
(16,957 posts)34. Speaking of Trump, he also likes to bring up Chicago
gun episodes.
braddy
(3,585 posts)24. I think the new total is 74 shot.
TheBlackAdder
(28,210 posts)30. Nothing good happens on a street corner, during a hot summer night, between the hours of 2-5AM.
jalan48
(13,874 posts)31. Poverty begets violence.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)32. What can be done to help eradicate both?
jalan48
(13,874 posts)33. Good question. A massive jobs program to get money into the community. Perhaps the
Defense Dept could forgo a few billion to help fund it.
