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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 02:28 PM Aug 2018

How do we counter this ignorant OR intentional shit?

I am not very good at verbal political arguments and this WILL come up where I live this election season....
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NEW YORK POST
KAROL MARKOWICZ
AUGUST 5, 2018

"Sorry, Democratic Socialists — you’re still pushing poison"


In the crazy, topsy-turvy year of 2018, socialism is somehow on the rise in America. To those of us unfortunate enough to have been born in the Soviet Union, this is troubling.

The new socialists say it’s different this time. They have a new name and everything: “Democratic Socialism.”

Don’t buy it: It’s still based on the same old, failed redistributionist tenets as the old kind — the kind that gave rise to devastating failure in my family homeland.

The second-most famous Democratic Socialist in America right now, after kingmaker Democratic Socialist Bernie Sanders, is New York City congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The newcomer does her best to explain the snake oil: It’s “the basic belief” that “in a m
oral and wealthy America .?.?. no person should be too poor to live in this country.”

And so on and so on-----


https://nypost.com/2018/08/05/sorry-democratic-socialists-youre-still-pushing-poison/
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How do we counter this ignorant OR intentional shit? (Original Post) pangaia Aug 2018 OP
So We Should Keep Our Corrupt Oligarchy PaulX2 Aug 2018 #1
That certainly is true.. but....Should that be my answer? pangaia Aug 2018 #2
I do understand heaven05 Aug 2018 #3
Specious Argument ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #4
Long on personal opinion, short any facts Atman Aug 2018 #5
right. That is my point. pangaia Aug 2018 #6

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
2. That certainly is true.. but....Should that be my answer?
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 02:56 PM
Aug 2018

The problem for me is countering the ridiculous argument without having to give a 5 minute brief on 'socialism,' which I couldn't do anyway...

And arguing against the falsehoods and garbage--

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venezuela
cuba
nordic countries
45% TAX!! lol
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. I do understand
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:37 AM
Aug 2018

the truth ALWAYS hurts those who protesteth too much. Unity of purpose is our priority or should be in defeating any trump chump. Not who's in charge. Divisiveness should be marginalized by faction and hopefully, they will join the program. Defeat ALL republiKKKans. This BS is getting really old. Body politic poison sometimes comes from an original site of infection, lance it with a red hot poker and move on. I did it once, hurts but heals......

ProfessorGAC

(65,111 posts)
4. Specious Argument
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:42 AM
Aug 2018

The decrying of "redistributionist tenets" and then comparing it to the USSR is just silly.

The USSR just took ownership and control of everything. That wasn't a redistribution of wealth, it was full scale appropriation and maintenance of control was done through terror and intimidation.

Somehow i'm thinking those who promote democratic socialism have a different governmental construct than the Soviet Union had.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
5. Long on personal opinion, short any facts
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:03 AM
Aug 2018

I've already had a FB Trumpy quote this article to me, telling me that socialism is "poison." He believes Democratic Socialism is just another word for Communism (something this author alludes to). Trump saved America, and socialists will just take over all industry and give away all of their stuff to no-good poor people. Seriously, dude believes this.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. right. That is my point.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:51 AM
Aug 2018

But I need 'bullet points' or something short and sweet if I am going to be able to, even briefly, counter these absurd, ignorant statements from people.


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