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edbermac

(15,942 posts)
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 05:34 PM Aug 2018

The Onion nails it on InfoWars ban.

WASHINGTON—Acknowledging the widespread repercussions from the act of corporate censorship, first amendment experts warned Monday that Facebook’s decision to ban InfoWars could set a completely reasonable precedent for free speech.

“If we allow giant media platforms to single out individual users for harassing the families of murdered kindergarteners, it could lead to a nightmare scenario of measured and well-thought-out public discourse,” said Georgetown law professor Charles F. Abernathy, cautioning that it was sometimes very easy for private organizations to draw a line between constitutionally protected free speech and the slanderous ravings of a bloated lunatic hawking snake oil supplements.

“What we see here really could be the beginning of a slippery slope towards a horrific ordeal in which any citizen who violates hate speech policies or blatantly spreads lies that cause other individuals to receive death threats will immediately be discredited and, perhaps, even asked to host their demonstrably false content on a website that they actually own.” Abernathy added that sites such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube all need to learn that they are totally free to act within the law.

https://www.theonion.com/first-amendment-experts-warn-facebook-banning-infowars-1828142660/amp?__twitter_impression=true

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Democracy is dead!
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 06:04 PM
Aug 2018


"Abernathy added that sites such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube all need to learn that they are totally free to act within the law."

This is great, Ed. Thanks.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Too bad American government can not come up with away to define hate speech as easy as The Onion.
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:03 PM
Aug 2018

"...cautioning that it was sometimes very easy for private organizations to draw a line between constitutionally protected free speech and the slanderous ravings of a bloated lunatic hawking snake oil supplements."

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
5. Can't yell "fire" in theater. Can not solicit a murder. Can not perjure or libel.
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:09 PM
Aug 2018

Even free speech has limits.

Response to edbermac (Original post)

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
8. Nobody voted for Facebook to deal with Alex Jones, though.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:33 AM
Aug 2018

And the 1A exists specifically to protect speech that offends you. Each of you.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/google-and-facebook-are-regulating-speech-by-booting-alex-jones-and-their-power-to-do-so-is-a-problem.html

Watch how quickly the worm turns if, say, Bill Maher were censored by Facebook tomorrow.

The Onion is wicked satire, but it is still satire. Does anyone really believe conservatives who previously hung on Jones' every utterance will now resort to "measured and well-thought-out public discourse"?

Censorship is still censorship, even you're scarfing down the other guy's barbecued ox. Yours will be dinner next week.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
10. 1A applies to government...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:11 AM
Aug 2018

Not business. As long as Facebook, et al, are regarded as business they can remove whomever they wish.

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
13. Sorry.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:45 PM
Aug 2018

But FB has morphed into something much more sinister than the sociopathic corporations that currently own our feckless government, as much as the banks and pharmaceutical companies do.

You're right in that a corporate Supreme Court would see it your way. Your dry legal contention is accurate; it just does not address what has developed.

Click on the link I posted and read it. We're headed for bigger problems if we let FB decide who gets seen, read, heard, and who doesn't. And we may be past the point of reigning that in, so ... if they're just a business, as you point out, then my option is to stop doing business with them. Which I did, months ago.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. You're confusing censorship with an abuse of terms of service.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:14 AM
Aug 2018

These are two wholly separate concepts, regardless of the worms or oxen you prepare for dinner.

"The Onion is wicked satire, but it is still satire..."
Who is arguing otherwise?

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