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(6,288 posts)Think he just got some bad advice.
We'll see.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Hillary Clinton showed that in 2008.
chrsjrcj
(11 posts)Will Sharice Davids if Brent Welder wins?
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Not sure about Thanedar.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)C'mon Kansas!
JI7
(89,260 posts)Cha
(297,496 posts)I wonder why we even have to ask?
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)And whatever El-Sayed does will be criticized ad nauseam by a small minority typing away ferociously on an internet message board. That is a given. Same as it ever was.
Cha
(297,496 posts)his campaign tactics:nopity;
You and your "small minority".. Newsflash.. El Sayed was getting called out all over Twitter, too.
Kaleva
(36,325 posts)Connie Saltonstall never did support or campaign for the winner of the primary and that's probably another reason why you no longer support candidates such as her. Party unity, especially in the general, is very important.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...you'll be damn straight I'll call him out on it. That's what the losing candidate is supposed to do.
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)Cha
(297,496 posts).. with an accusatory personal attack.
Cha
(297,496 posts)Josh Cryer.
I think it was placed well. Thanks.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)R B Garr
(16,966 posts)at, too? Arent you saying shes on her own and doesnt need the help? Does the same apply to Cortezshell be fine, no help needed...? Ooh, same as it ever was, indeed.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 8, 2018, 01:19 AM - Edit history (1)
Abduls voters had better get out and vote against him.
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)theaocp
(4,244 posts)I counsel folks to NOT tell voters what they "better do", but rather play up Schuette's negatives (not hard, and factual) while upping Whitmer's positives (not as easy, since it's easier to be negative). We have to move past the primary YESTERDAY and make this happen. As a Michigan resident, I understand this clearly.
unc70
(6,117 posts)Urged everyone to unite behind Whitmer. Maybe the naysayers here can give it a rest now. Probably too much to hope for.
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)I think you are probably right. Some will go on about him for years (good thing I have most of those types on ignore).
Anywho, I look forward to kicking Schweddy's arse!
lunasun
(21,646 posts)^^Concession speech tonight to his supporters^^
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Pretty solid ego.
https://www.google.com/search?q=abdul+or+bust&rlz=1C1EODB_enUS545US545&oq=abdul+or+bust&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.2559j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Have people been making the claim that is what they are going to do? Literally making up his own narrative based on self.
Hit the campaign trail, El-Sayed.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)Why you are still attacking him 12 hours later for something he couldn't have done in that time leaves what options for him? He's trying for unity and you're shitting on him for it. Damn.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He's obviously trying to bring unity around the Democratic nominee, but I guess that's hard to comprehend? If you really want to support Whitmer, get behind her SUPPORTERS, like Abdul, and let's kick Republican ass.
R B Garr
(16,966 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Might be a tweet or two and a stop or two. That's it. Even that will be about self.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Lets see actions from him.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)It's been 12 hours. Take a rest.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I'm feeling very energized.
Thanks.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)Letting Abdul support our nominee, yes? Great!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I don't know how I could "not let him".
Strange.
Whitmer for the win! Get on board! Get in line!
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
theaocp
(4,244 posts)Give him time. There is no reason to think otherwise, other than pessimism. He has said everything right from the losing end and has my benefit of the doubt. We need those voters and morale does not improve with repeated beatings. Fuck Schuette with a chainsaw. Thats my mantra.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)We have a great candidate.
This is exciting.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)I get that most people like to discard the folks on the losing end, but they still support Democratic ideals. They need to be listened to and not told to get in line. That line of thinking doesnt yield good governing in a democracy. Thats exciting.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)My candidate lost and you better not say anything negative about him or I wont support the progressive running. Fuck PUMAs. They stand in direct conflict to what we believe as a group.
I voted for Charlie Crist after he won in his primary. People arent as shallow as you are making them out to be, in general.
This would be more logical if you were trying to make a point about yourself. Are you not willing to support progressives if your person loses a primary? If you answer that you are willing to, then the rest is just making things up about others.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)Or you work to bring them in. Which do you want to do? There are a lot of Abduls supporters that Whitmer can have in her camp. Bring them in without nyah nyahing in their face. Its the high road and fucks Republicans. Wheres the question?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts)...time to stop treating her primary challengers like they were caricatures and monoliths.
There is a host of new and potential votes from supporters of these challengers that Whitmer is now compelled to adopt and keep for use in November. There's no blaming defeated candidates if she isn't able to do that.
More Michigan Democrats turned out to vote in Tuesdays gubernatorial primary, won by Gretchen Whitmer, than in any Democratic primary in the state since 1978. The Detroit Free Press reports:
The results show Democratic voters, in particular, are more energized than they were the last time Michigan had a gubernatorial election with contested nominations in both parties. With 99 percent of precincts reporting, close to 2.1 million votes had been cast for governor, shattering recent turnout results for a midterm primary election. Democratic candidates for governor had received just over 1.1 million votes, while Republican candidates for governor had received about 975,000 votes.
Michigans record-breaking turnoutin August, no lesswas the result of a three-way race that drew national attention...
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/150542/democrats-voting-record-numbers-even-dead-summer
emulatorloo
(44,164 posts)general.
Its not rocket science.
I appreciated El-Sayeds full throated endorsement of Whitmer last night. Good for him.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...it's not really an issue for seasoned Democrats, but the folks who would potentially expand our base will need more than admonitions against not voting to get them to the polls.
I like Whitmer's appeal to her opponents:
She commended them for their efforts throughout this campaign season and said she was proud to be on a Democratic ticket, with the most diversity in state history. Whitmer said, adding that she is opening the door to El-Sayed and Thanedar for future teamwork.
There is a place for you as we move forward. I appreciate your spirit and your energy, I appreciate your ideas and what you have meant to this party, she said.
LexVegas
(6,088 posts)theaocp
(4,244 posts)Iggo
(47,563 posts)The primary is over.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)He has a lot of support that needs to get behind Whitmer.
Iggo
(47,563 posts)Don't care, as long as Democratic voters don't do the dumbest fucking thing we do, which is to keep fighting the goddam motherfucking primary after it's over.
That's really what I meant to say.
Clarity is best seen under unforgiving light. It's why I posted about Abdul supporting Whitmer as soon as I could. This shit was over last night. It's time to let the posts about how much ratfuckery there is or is not going on GO. Like yesterday. It's like a fight between spouses: you can continue to hold grudges or you can love each other and work toward common goals. Let it go, motherfuckers. Let it go.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)That's a given, doncha think?
Agendas will be followed, regardless of facts. I advocate unity since we have our nominees.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Yes, BTW, that's rhetorical.
theaocp
(4,244 posts)But based on past performance of conservatives, probably. We have to assume it wont come from primary opponents and get their supporters to vote for the Democratic nominee. The butthurt of yesterday is strong but Ill be fucked before letting Schuette be my next governor.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)theaocp
(4,244 posts)He obviously has supporters that should support Whitmer. Get over the primaries and make sure you get as many as possible to do so. Why is this complicated?
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Abdul El-Sayed vows to take momentum from supporters into Whitmer's race in November
"We have an opportunity," he said. "Do not walk out of here saying anything like, 'Abdul or bust.' Tomorrow, we turn around and we turn this into a movement to ... beat Bill Schuette in the fall."
pamdb
(1,332 posts)Originally, I had thought he would be a good running mate for her but after he went so negative near the end, maybe not so much.
lapucelle
(18,303 posts)is whether Democratic Socialist, Justice Democrat, and Brand New Congress voters will sit out the general election in some races.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)just run trying to attract that vote?
Those wired dissident won't, of course. Sheeze. Some get so worked up against mainstream Democrats that they want them to lose to their Republican opponents. All view those losses as hopefully weakening the party enough that they can seize power someday.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And as he came out first thing this morning asking his supporters to throw their weight of support behind Whitmer, I'll presume that's the course of action decided upon until it's not.