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blaze

(6,367 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:40 PM Aug 2018

Judge Ellis to prosecutor




"The drama playing inside the court between the judge and prosecutor:

Judge Ellis told Greg Andres he needed to look at him while speaking to him, and accused him of having tears in his eyes, according to an exchange from a court transcript that the jury did not hear."
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Judge Ellis to prosecutor (Original Post) blaze Aug 2018 OP
Power tripping dude GusBob Aug 2018 #1
Transcript: dalton99a Aug 2018 #2
Right now: Judge is not allowing prosecutors to present their case emulatorloo Aug 2018 #3
Perhaps this old guy..... dawnie51 Aug 2018 #4
Agreed! I was thinking we need to see his taxes... R B Garr Aug 2018 #6
Can the prosecution Quemado Aug 2018 #5
Wow, this is just hyper personalized harassment of the prosecution. R B Garr Aug 2018 #7

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)
2. Transcript:
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:45 PM
Aug 2018
What follows is taken from the transcript:

“Look at me when you’re talking to me,’’ Ellis said to Andres.

“I’m sorry, judge, I was,’’ Andres said.

“No, you weren’t,’’ Ellis said. “You were looking down.’’

“Because I don’t want to get in trouble for some facial expression,’’ the prosecutor said. “I don’t want to get yelled at again by the court for having some facial expression when I’m not doing anything wrong, but trying my case.’’

Ellis said to another prosecutor: “You must be quiet.’’

“I’m sorry, judge,’’ Andres said.

“Well, I understand how frustrated you are. In fact, there’s tears in your eyes right now.’’

“There are not tears in my eyes, Judge,’’ Andres said.

“Well, they’re watery,’’ Ellis said. “Look, I want you to focus sharply on what you need to prove -- to prove the crime. And I don’t understand what a lot of these questions have to do with it.’

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-07/manafort-judge-to-prosecutor-there-s-tears-in-your-eyes

emulatorloo

(44,164 posts)
3. Right now: Judge is not allowing prosecutors to present their case
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:45 PM
Aug 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/08/paul-manafort-trial-day-7-live-coverage/?utm_term=.1df649d793b5

12:31 p.m.: Judge again spars with prosecutors

After a lengthy break, Judge T.S. Ellis III again sparred with prosecutors over the pace of the trial and evidence they want to admit. The heated argument has been a common occurrence at the trial.

The latest dispute centered on charts prosecutors want to show jurors demonstrating the flow of money from Manafort’s offshore accounts to specific purchases he made in the U.S. They intend to do so as they question the next witness, FBI accountant Morgan Magionos.

<snip>

Ellis ultimately agreed to let Andres question Magionos, though he warned he would be on a short leash and he would consider objections from the defense at his bench as the testimony proceeded.

“Judges should be patient. They made a mistake when they confirmed me,” Ellis quipped.

As jurors were about to be led into the courtroom, Ellis then remarked that he would not let the FBI’s accountant read certain emails from Paul Manafort that prosecutors want jurors to hear. Andres said he hoped to address that issue later in the afternoon. With jurors walking into the courtroom, Ellis thundered that he had read the prosecutors’ brief and seemed to imply he considered the matter decided. He said one previous court decision they were relying on contained only a “a throwaway line” to support their argument.

Much more at link

dawnie51

(959 posts)
4. Perhaps this old guy.....
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:54 PM
Aug 2018

needs some scrutiny. Is HIS bank account suddenly fatter? This is very unusual behavior for a judge to exhibit. He is starting to appear more and more compromised.

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
7. Wow, this is just hyper personalized harassment of the prosecution.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 01:08 PM
Aug 2018

Bizarre. This judge is making this out to be about himself and he is turning into the story. Suspicious!

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