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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJudge Ellis to prosecutor
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"The drama playing inside the court between the judge and prosecutor:
Judge Ellis told Greg Andres he needed to look at him while speaking to him, and accused him of having tears in his eyes, according to an exchange from a court transcript that the jury did not hear."
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Judge Ellis to prosecutor (Original Post)
blaze
Aug 2018
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GusBob
(7,286 posts)1. Power tripping dude
dalton99a
(81,565 posts)2. Transcript:
What follows is taken from the transcript:
Look at me when youre talking to me, Ellis said to Andres.
Im sorry, judge, I was, Andres said.
No, you werent, Ellis said. You were looking down.
Because I dont want to get in trouble for some facial expression, the prosecutor said. I dont want to get yelled at again by the court for having some facial expression when Im not doing anything wrong, but trying my case.
Ellis said to another prosecutor: You must be quiet.
Im sorry, judge, Andres said.
Well, I understand how frustrated you are. In fact, theres tears in your eyes right now.
There are not tears in my eyes, Judge, Andres said.
Well, theyre watery, Ellis said. Look, I want you to focus sharply on what you need to prove -- to prove the crime. And I dont understand what a lot of these questions have to do with it.
Look at me when youre talking to me, Ellis said to Andres.
Im sorry, judge, I was, Andres said.
No, you werent, Ellis said. You were looking down.
Because I dont want to get in trouble for some facial expression, the prosecutor said. I dont want to get yelled at again by the court for having some facial expression when Im not doing anything wrong, but trying my case.
Ellis said to another prosecutor: You must be quiet.
Im sorry, judge, Andres said.
Well, I understand how frustrated you are. In fact, theres tears in your eyes right now.
There are not tears in my eyes, Judge, Andres said.
Well, theyre watery, Ellis said. Look, I want you to focus sharply on what you need to prove -- to prove the crime. And I dont understand what a lot of these questions have to do with it.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-07/manafort-judge-to-prosecutor-there-s-tears-in-your-eyes
emulatorloo
(44,164 posts)3. Right now: Judge is not allowing prosecutors to present their case
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/08/paul-manafort-trial-day-7-live-coverage/?utm_term=.1df649d793b5
12:31 p.m.: Judge again spars with prosecutors
After a lengthy break, Judge T.S. Ellis III again sparred with prosecutors over the pace of the trial and evidence they want to admit. The heated argument has been a common occurrence at the trial.
The latest dispute centered on charts prosecutors want to show jurors demonstrating the flow of money from Manaforts offshore accounts to specific purchases he made in the U.S. They intend to do so as they question the next witness, FBI accountant Morgan Magionos.
<snip>
Ellis ultimately agreed to let Andres question Magionos, though he warned he would be on a short leash and he would consider objections from the defense at his bench as the testimony proceeded.
Judges should be patient. They made a mistake when they confirmed me, Ellis quipped.
As jurors were about to be led into the courtroom, Ellis then remarked that he would not let the FBIs accountant read certain emails from Paul Manafort that prosecutors want jurors to hear. Andres said he hoped to address that issue later in the afternoon. With jurors walking into the courtroom, Ellis thundered that he had read the prosecutors brief and seemed to imply he considered the matter decided. He said one previous court decision they were relying on contained only a a throwaway line to support their argument.
Much more at link
12:31 p.m.: Judge again spars with prosecutors
After a lengthy break, Judge T.S. Ellis III again sparred with prosecutors over the pace of the trial and evidence they want to admit. The heated argument has been a common occurrence at the trial.
The latest dispute centered on charts prosecutors want to show jurors demonstrating the flow of money from Manaforts offshore accounts to specific purchases he made in the U.S. They intend to do so as they question the next witness, FBI accountant Morgan Magionos.
<snip>
Ellis ultimately agreed to let Andres question Magionos, though he warned he would be on a short leash and he would consider objections from the defense at his bench as the testimony proceeded.
Judges should be patient. They made a mistake when they confirmed me, Ellis quipped.
As jurors were about to be led into the courtroom, Ellis then remarked that he would not let the FBIs accountant read certain emails from Paul Manafort that prosecutors want jurors to hear. Andres said he hoped to address that issue later in the afternoon. With jurors walking into the courtroom, Ellis thundered that he had read the prosecutors brief and seemed to imply he considered the matter decided. He said one previous court decision they were relying on contained only a a throwaway line to support their argument.
Much more at link
dawnie51
(959 posts)4. Perhaps this old guy.....
needs some scrutiny. Is HIS bank account suddenly fatter? This is very unusual behavior for a judge to exhibit. He is starting to appear more and more compromised.
R B Garr
(16,966 posts)6. Agreed! I was thinking we need to see his taxes...
This is off the rails bizarre at this point.
Quemado
(1,262 posts)5. Can the prosecution
file a writ of mandamus to get this judge off the case?
R B Garr
(16,966 posts)7. Wow, this is just hyper personalized harassment of the prosecution.
Bizarre. This judge is making this out to be about himself and he is turning into the story. Suspicious!