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Seriously this Mar-a-Lago VA scandal needs urgent attention (Original Post) malaise Aug 2018 OP
It's almost like a plot for a book by Charles Dickens no_hypocrisy Aug 2018 #1
I've never seen anything like this malaise Aug 2018 #5
I'm starting to get jaw dislocation issues. nolabear Aug 2018 #2
My jaw has dropped permanently malaise Aug 2018 #6
ain't THAT the truth!!! FirstLight Aug 2018 #7
A good example of why a majority in at least one house of Congress is essential. RockRaven Aug 2018 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Aug 2018 #4
ATTN: Mike Nelson Aug 2018 #8
Chris Hayes just had the reporter who broke the story on. so it is getting some traction. Amaryllis Aug 2018 #9
It's a total f-n shadow government C_U_L8R Aug 2018 #10
I actual thought, Corgigal Aug 2018 #11
Please do it ASAP! JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #22
So maybe THIS is what they mean when they say Mr. Ected Aug 2018 #12
What if other agencies are out-managed like this? Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #13
I suspect that they all will be 2naSalit Aug 2018 #16
I bet they already are. Mr.Bill Aug 2018 #26
I'm pretty sure they are 2naSalit Aug 2018 #28
I didn't think I could get shocked by anything else Trump did.... democrank Aug 2018 #14
The assault on our country continues. gademocrat7 Aug 2018 #15
They'd better hurry up before it's all gone. 2naSalit Aug 2018 #17
Yep, he'll be experimenting with Vets before his term ends uponit7771 Aug 2018 #18
When will we find out which xxqqqzme Aug 2018 #24
Kick Hekate Aug 2018 #19
K&R... spanone Aug 2018 #20
We are already. VA has kept me alive and I feel like 35 again. I love the VA. We vets make noise ... marble falls Aug 2018 #21
Is Putin a member? queentonic Aug 2018 #23
I am disgusted erlewyne Aug 2018 #25
It's sickening...just turns my stomach and enrages me Docreed2003 Aug 2018 #27
Govexec reported on this Tuesday benld74 Aug 2018 #29
Walter Shaub former Ethics Chief, was on CNN BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #30
"...an agency in which officials must "kiss the ring" of this shadow trio..." Miles Archer Aug 2018 #31
Part-timers Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #32

malaise

(269,225 posts)
6. My jaw has dropped permanently
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:46 PM
Aug 2018

This are people who served their country and have needs.
This cannot be allowed.

RockRaven

(15,041 posts)
3. A good example of why a majority in at least one house of Congress is essential.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:42 PM
Aug 2018

Need subpoena power and testimony under oath.

Response to malaise (Original post)

C_U_L8R

(45,026 posts)
10. It's a total f-n shadow government
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:51 PM
Aug 2018

Unelected. Unappointed. Unvetted. Unapproved. Unaccountable.
UNACCEPTABLE.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
11. I actual thought,
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:55 PM
Aug 2018

I have a few years to Medicare, if I need surgery from the VA, I'm gonna die.

So, I'm going to do my check in once a year, do nothing special, look for nothing on any exam.
Wish me luck. It's spooky.

I did relay my family this article, in case they need names one day.

2naSalit

(86,867 posts)
16. I suspect that they all will be
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:13 PM
Aug 2018

before long. It's what darthcheney was pushing for, don't forget. And his spawn is in the House.

Mr.Bill

(24,338 posts)
26. I bet they already are.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:41 PM
Aug 2018

Go down the list of incompetent idiot Cabinet heads with no experience in their department's field. Do you really think they are running things?

democrank

(11,112 posts)
14. I didn't think I could get shocked by anything else Trump did....
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:59 PM
Aug 2018

but this is beyond the beyond. The Vets I know are going to be deeply disturbed by this.

I think it was on Chris Hayes tonight..... apparently the guy actually running the VA isn't part of this VA group. I'm frigging sick over this. Suicides, Agent Orange coming home to roost, multiple deployments, and the Marvel Comics guy is telling Trump what should be done? Not one of the three is a veteran. Not one.



xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
24. When will we find out which
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:28 PM
Aug 2018

other agencies have been 'turned' over? This is how privatization starts.

marble falls

(57,395 posts)
21. We are already. VA has kept me alive and I feel like 35 again. I love the VA. We vets make noise ...
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:17 PM
Aug 2018

lots of noise and we vote.

queentonic

(243 posts)
23. Is Putin a member?
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:23 PM
Aug 2018

When will we learn that Putin is a member of Mar-a-Largo and making policy decisions as well? I'm a vet and I find this beyond anything I can fathom. Why do my fellow vets support these creatures from the sewer?

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
25. I am disgusted
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:35 PM
Aug 2018

My first visit (as a patient) was after I turned sixty-five in 2012. I was proud
and had two uncles (now deceased) who lived at that Veterans Home.


Docreed2003

(16,886 posts)
27. It's sickening...just turns my stomach and enrages me
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:42 PM
Aug 2018

As an OEF vet that saw first hand the type of injuries that will last a lifetime, this just pisses me off. The infrastructure that we paid into and were promised is being sold off to the highest bidder...and it's barely raising a "meh" from the media....that's how fucked up our country has become. And if they will do it to vets, you can damn sure bet they won't bat an eye for anyone else!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
31. "...an agency in which officials must "kiss the ring" of this shadow trio..."
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:58 PM
Aug 2018
Throughout both his campaign and his presidency, Donald Trump has insisted that reforming the Department of Veterans Affairs is a top priority. But according to a bombshell new report from ProPublica, the White House has essentially ceded control of the VA to a trio of the president’s rich buddies who he knows from his resort in Mar-a-Lago—none of whom are government employees.

The triumvirate of extra-governmental shot callers consists of Palm Beach doctor Bruce Moskowitz, attorney Marc Sherman, and, perhaps most notably, Marvel Entertainment chairman Ike Perlmutter. None of the three have ever served in the U.S. armed forces, although Perlmutter is an Israeli army veteran who fought in the 1967 Six Day War. What they do all possess, however, is expertise at giving Trump money; all three pay thousands of dollars a year to be Mar-a-Lago members.

ProPublica wrote that the group has been dubbed “the Mar-a-Lago crowd” and has reportedly helped shape both VA policy as well as staffing decisions throughout the Trump administration, all while flouting normal governmental procedure and rules. The result, ProPublica explained, is an agency in which officials must “kiss the ring” of this shadow trio to move on certain decisions.

“On any veterans issue, the first person the president calls is Ike,” one former administration official told the site. Perlmutter was also on hand at the White House when Trump signed an executive order for “Improving Accountability and Whistleblower Protection” at the VA in 2017.

https://splinternews.com/trump-has-reportedly-handed-over-control-of-the-va-to-h-1828187399

Roy Rolling

(6,943 posts)
32. Part-timers
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 11:11 PM
Aug 2018

Trump has a bunch of non-military people working in their spare time running the VA for their own personal enrichment.

To get traction, there needs to be a hook. Trump country club members exploiting sick U.S. veterans to line the pockets of other golfing buddies is the type of framing that will accomplish that.

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