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Demovictory9

(32,482 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 07:06 AM Aug 2018

Police confronted over alleged 'bait truck' of Nike shoes left in black Chicago community

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/08/bait-truck-video-shows-chicago-neighbors-confronting-police/936516002/

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Community members confronted a circle of police in Chicago's Englewood neighborhood over a "bait truck" allegedly filled with Nike shoes and left open by police aiming to lure potential thieves and make arrests.

"Y'all dirty, man," a man tells officers in an online video of the incident published Thursday. "Y'all see kids playing ball and you pull a f----- Nike truck into the ghetto."

Charles McKenzie, an anti-crime activist who put the video on Facebook, told Vox that the truck appeared next to a basketball court frequented by young people in the largely black neighborhood in the South Side of Chicago.

And while both local and federal agencies conduct such "bait" operations, the site reported, neither Chicago police nor the FBI offered comment on the truck.

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But some community members perceived an alleged bait truck, left in an impoverished neighborhood near a basketball court, as an obvious attempt to target black youth as racially lopsided arrests unfold nationwide.

"The police parked a truck with boxes of Nike shoes in front of kids, lifted up," McKenzie, the activist, said on Facebook, "and when people hop in the truck, the police hopping out on them."

McKenzie founded God's Gorrilas, a group promoting job assistance and alternatives to violence in Chicago. His video, which has 630,000 views on Facebook, later picked up another 290,000 views on WorldStar.

In another video, YouTuber Martin G. Johnson allegedly depicts the bait truck traveling between locations with "plainsclothes, FBI-looking type guys." Once parked, he films community members telling authorities to remove the vehicle from their neighborhood.

"Kids shouldn't be breaking back into trucks," a police officer responds.

After the confrontation, however, the white truck is driven away.

"That's what advocacy looks like," one man says. "Good job, people.".

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Police confronted over alleged 'bait truck' of Nike shoes left in black Chicago community (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2018 OP
70 shootings in a weekend and they're messing around with a bait truck?! Hmmmmm uponit7771 Aug 2018 #1
Yes, firtst thought I had too.. WTF??? mountain grammy Aug 2018 #28
"put it in your neighborhood" handmade34 Aug 2018 #2
Cargo theft $27million seems like a lot of money. gordianot Aug 2018 #3
That line in the article is a perfect example mercuryblues Aug 2018 #14
It bothered me, you make a much better point. gordianot Aug 2018 #26
Do we need more people in jail? Is there a prisoner shortage? Takket Aug 2018 #4
Yes, when for-profit prisons are involved. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2018 #12
Waaah, the quota queens (cops) didn't get their targets DinahMoeHum Aug 2018 #5
Tell them to put a bait Truck in a white neighborhood and see what happens UCmeNdc Aug 2018 #6
Exactly HopeAgain Aug 2018 #23
I have an idea! Boomer Aug 2018 #7
I say we organize our own "bait trucks", filled with Kid Rock CDs and camo vests Tarc Aug 2018 #8
or truck full of shady loans outside a Trump home Demovictory9 Aug 2018 #9
Don't forget the Russia Fanboy t-shirts Bettie Aug 2018 #11
Or cases of Oxy . . . . hatrack Aug 2018 #27
this is why heaven05 Aug 2018 #10
Rahm? Is this why you keep hiring more police ? Nt lostnfound Aug 2018 #13
Give Inside Info To Stock Traders PaulX2 Aug 2018 #15
Hedge Fund Owners Will Never Go To Jail PaulX2 Aug 2018 #16
Exactly!!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2018 #33
Place an open doughnut truck in the police department parking lot. NBachers Aug 2018 #17
Best suggestion yet! kag Aug 2018 #21
LOL Scurrilous Aug 2018 #37
lazy eShirl Aug 2018 #18
This is so Fucking Evil. Not enough crime in Chicago bonniebgood Aug 2018 #19
Also not legal. infullview Aug 2018 #20
Except it's done all the time, and upheld in courts. kag Aug 2018 #24
Actually not. Entrapment has a specific legal definition in almost all jurisdictions. AncientGeezer Aug 2018 #34
OK I concede on entrapment infullview Aug 2018 #35
Agree it's slimy but it's a used tactic. And will be. AncientGeezer Aug 2018 #36
Wonder if Nike knows. Historic NY Aug 2018 #22
Nike is probably "donating" money to the police dept. kag Aug 2018 #25
too bad the same resources couldn't be used to help disadvantaged youth get jobs Victor_c3 Aug 2018 #29
Chicago Police higher ups HAD to know AND approve of this crap benld74 Aug 2018 #30
Park that in front of Princeton University's Common Area, and 100 affluent white kids would hit it TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #31
Chicago cops like easy collars Odoreida Aug 2018 #32

gordianot

(15,247 posts)
3. Cargo theft $27million seems like a lot of money.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 07:42 AM
Aug 2018

But does not hold a candle to reported Republican financial crimes.

mercuryblues

(14,547 posts)
14. That line in the article is a perfect example
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:30 AM
Aug 2018

of racial bias. Most all cargo theft is the result of cargo theft rings. Adults. They steal entire tractor trailer. They are well organized.

It is not teenaged boys stealing sneakers off the back of a truck.

By putting that line in there it leads the reader to believe that black kids taking sneakers off the back of a truck, left open and unlocked are responsible for that 27 million loss.
When in real life it is an organized crime syndicate.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,374 posts)
12. Yes, when for-profit prisons are involved.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:18 AM
Aug 2018

More prisoners, more money, more shareholder equity, life is good.

Well, except for the prisoners and their families.

But, hey, here at the country club, we're elated! More prisoners, please.

DinahMoeHum

(21,815 posts)
5. Waaah, the quota queens (cops) didn't get their targets
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:02 AM
Aug 2018

Last edited Thu Aug 9, 2018, 12:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Serves them fucking well right for doing that crap.

Boomer

(4,170 posts)
7. I have an idea!
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:04 AM
Aug 2018

Let's leave an open Brinks truck full of cash and stock certificates in an upper-class White neighborhood.

Tarc

(10,478 posts)
8. I say we organize our own "bait trucks", filled with Kid Rock CDs and camo vests
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:06 AM
Aug 2018

Park it in a rural Kentucky town, see what happens.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. this is why
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:11 AM
Aug 2018

amerika will never get better. Too many pigs in uniform and out, racist or not. But if white, more than likely racist and just waiting to put a n****r down with 10 or 12 bullets.

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
19. This is so Fucking Evil. Not enough crime in Chicago
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:57 AM
Aug 2018

the government has to create more. Repukes are so damn evil, yes the mayor as well. wherever this came from, the top down needs to be headlines news, pictured fired.

kag

(4,079 posts)
24. Except it's done all the time, and upheld in courts.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 09:29 AM
Aug 2018

Lots of states let their cops do this. 'Cause, you know...not enough crime.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
34. Actually not. Entrapment has a specific legal definition in almost all jurisdictions.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 09:09 PM
Aug 2018

There's a difference between an "entrapment" and setting up an "opportunity" to commit a crime.
"Government agents may not originate a criminal design, implant in an innocent person's mind the disposition to commit a criminal act, and then induce commission of the crime so that the Government may prosecute."
"Inducement is the threshold issue in the entrapment defense. Mere solicitation to commit a crime is not inducement. Sorrells v. United States, 287 U.S. 435, 451 (1932)." https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-645-entrapment-elements

infullview

(982 posts)
35. OK I concede on entrapment
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 01:41 PM
Aug 2018

but that doesn't mean it isn't slimy. It's like parking a truckload of food in a poverty stricken neighborhood and arresting anyone who might be hungry enough to help themselves.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
36. Agree it's slimy but it's a used tactic. And will be.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 06:18 PM
Aug 2018

I don't believe a jury on the planet would convict in your example though...I still have faith in Most people

kag

(4,079 posts)
25. Nike is probably "donating" money to the police dept.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 09:35 AM
Aug 2018

...to get them to do this. Not officially, of course.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
29. too bad the same resources couldn't be used to help disadvantaged youth get jobs
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 09:50 AM
Aug 2018

But, as mentioned above, there is a lot of money involved in the for-profit prison system.

Instead of baiting kids and locking them up, they should teach them real job skills like welding, nursing, computer skills, etcetera.

benld74

(9,911 posts)
30. Chicago Police higher ups HAD to know AND approve of this crap
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 10:24 AM
Aug 2018

Everyone knows that

Pure BS as all levels

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
32. Chicago cops like easy collars
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 01:54 PM
Aug 2018

Crime "prevention" is not a measurable statistic to help a cop get ahead in his career.

Protecting lives and property?

Not these cops, not those neighborhoods.

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