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Is it me, or is Judge Ellis helping Manafort? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Aug 2018 OP
A guest on Ari Melber's show (can't remember the name) said he's like that with every case Siwsan Aug 2018 #1
You are not the first person to ask this GusBob Aug 2018 #2
I've read a couple of opinions Lindsay Aug 2018 #3
That is a possibility. imanamerican63 Aug 2018 #4
Yup - also reduce chance of appeals lamsmy Aug 2018 #5
He's just a drama queen with a lifetime appointment, not unusual Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #6

Siwsan

(26,308 posts)
1. A guest on Ari Melber's show (can't remember the name) said he's like that with every case
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:38 AM
Aug 2018

This individual had tried cases before the judge, in the past, and said this behavior is nothing unusual for him. Sometimes he targets the prosecution, sometimes the defense.

If I can find the individual's name, I'll post it.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
2. You are not the first person to ask this
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:42 AM
Aug 2018

I think one of Manaforts lawyers said it best: this judge wants to be treated like he is the smartest person in the room

which makes him sound like a pompous ass to me

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
3. I've read a couple of opinions
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:50 AM
Aug 2018

from lawyers who've said that the prosecution usually has the upper hand in white-collar crime cases (because the feds won't bring a case that they're not likely to win), so judges will bend over backward for the defense in order to avoid the appearance of favoring the prosecution when the case is inevitably appealed.

I hope they're right.

lamsmy

(155 posts)
5. Yup - also reduce chance of appeals
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 09:30 AM
Aug 2018

1. Yes, this confirms my reading - they wouldnt have brought a case they didn't think they could win handedly

2. Also heard he is always like this.

3. Doesn't want his name attached to any charges of "witch hunt" or a weak case that can be appealed. So making absolutely sure the prosecution has nailed this. It may raise hackles in the courtroom, but prosecutors are usually okay with this.

Jersey Devil

(9,875 posts)
6. He's just a drama queen with a lifetime appointment, not unusual
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 09:34 AM
Aug 2018

I've been a lawyer for 45 years and have seen lots of judges like him. He wants to be the center of attention and when you think about it, it isn't much different than Trump.

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