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nolabear

(41,991 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:10 AM Aug 2018

A guy stole a Horizon Air plane from Seattle airport.

F-15s were scrambled and people on Twitter were monitoring the control tower. He was suicidal. Flew it into the ground, I think on a little island.

Incredible. If you follow Twitter you can follow at #SeaTac

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A guy stole a Horizon Air plane from Seattle airport. (Original Post) nolabear Aug 2018 OP
That's too bad. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #1
Sadly, yes manor321 Aug 2018 #3
Yes, that audio is tragic. The analyst on CNN is full of crap. nolabear Aug 2018 #5
I've been following the CNN coverage Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #2
Tweet of it flying by being chased by fighter jets: joshcryer Aug 2018 #4
I'm amazed someone recognized the situation and took a video Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #10
Apparently he had been doing loops there. joshcryer Aug 2018 #12
"He was suicidal." Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #6
Stolen plane crashes after unauthorized takeoff at Seattle airport: Source dalton99a Aug 2018 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #8
Not funny at all, really Hekate Aug 2018 #9
No.. He was a troubled man who committed a tragic, public suicide. nolabear Aug 2018 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #14
From ABC News: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #19
Since he was an airport employee, they knew who he was and he likely had experience with planes Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #21
"joyride gone terribly wrong" joshcryer Aug 2018 #22
He also may have overestimated his abilities Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #27
I don't think he was even going to try to land it. LisaL Aug 2018 #39
It's not. It's documented minute by minute. Local news is all over it. nolabear Aug 2018 #20
"Nah, I'm a white guy." joshcryer Aug 2018 #15
Sad to read that stuff Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #23
They were trying to direct him to the military base. joshcryer Aug 2018 #26
Stealing a plane might stop his hiring is more likely than his race lunasun Aug 2018 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author C Moon Aug 2018 #31
Did you even read that Twitter page you linked? joshcryer Aug 2018 #33
It is very scary after 9/11 exboyfil Aug 2018 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #17
Looks like our visitor had a short stay. Hekate Aug 2018 #42
Yeah, I was composing a "you're being hysterical" reply nolabear Aug 2018 #49
That is a huge plane. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #13
A test pilot for Boeing rolled the prototype 707! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2018 #32
"Here . . . hold my beer!" colorado_ufo Aug 2018 #35
Incredible. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #55
No, not a huge plane. It's a Dash 8. cwydro Aug 2018 #51
As far as commuters...a loop and a barrel roll...Must have been an amateur pilot before... Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #54
Weird thought but it's lucky he went down on a tiny island. nolabear Aug 2018 #25
Not a weird thought at all. Too many want to take a lot of people with them... Hekate Aug 2018 #43
At least he didn't take anyone with him. Laffy Kat Aug 2018 #28
The #seatac twitter thread is amazing KelleyKramer Aug 2018 #29
Yes Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #30
I posted the audio ... KelleyKramer Aug 2018 #34
This happened MFM008 Aug 2018 #36
Didn't it crash on Ketron? yewberry Aug 2018 #41
That's what happens when you leave the keys in the ignition switch. MineralMan Aug 2018 #37
Local news discussed that this morning. nolabear Aug 2018 #44
No keys for airplanes. cwydro Aug 2018 #47
So because of one disturbed employee.. MicaelS Aug 2018 #62
Some ATC recordings here Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #38
that is some crazy audio. Calista241 Aug 2018 #60
Fodder for the msm - especially cable "news". Expect endless coverage all figgin day. BSdetect Aug 2018 #40
Why does that bother you? nolabear Aug 2018 #45
You're probably right BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #46
LOL! nolabear Aug 2018 #50
Do you know how to turn off your TV? cwydro Aug 2018 #48
not the first time someones stolen a plane in wash state and crashed on an island... samnsara Aug 2018 #52
Oh you're right! I forgot about him. nolabear Aug 2018 #53
One of those rolls put him literally 20 feet from the water. Whoa! Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #56
Yeah that footage is astounding. nolabear Aug 2018 #57
Hell of an endorsement for those airframes. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #58
He's Richard Russell. nolabear Aug 2018 #59
Just saw his picture. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #61
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
3. Sadly, yes
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:15 AM
Aug 2018

And there is a good bit of recorded audio that people have made available. Quite sad really.

Also the Sheriff's office is tweeting official info:
https://twitter.com/PierceSheriff

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
5. Yes, that audio is tragic. The analyst on CNN is full of crap.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:18 AM
Aug 2018

Saying he wanted to crash in a populated area. There was no talk of that at all.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
10. I'm amazed someone recognized the situation and took a video
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:37 AM
Aug 2018

I would have been clueless, unless the elevation of plane or the noise level of chase was extreme

dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
7. Stolen plane crashes after unauthorized takeoff at Seattle airport: Source
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:26 AM
Aug 2018

Last edited Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:17 AM - Edit history (1)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/stolen-plane-crashes-unauthorized-takeoff-seattle-airport-source/story?id=57141064
Stolen plane crashes after unauthorized takeoff at Seattle airport: Source
Aug 11, 2018, 1:20 AM ET


Response to nolabear (Original post)

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
11. No.. He was a troubled man who committed a tragic, public suicide.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:40 AM
Aug 2018

I’ve heard some of the conversation with traffic control. He sounds odd, almost frantic. Apologetic. It’s not funny.

Response to nolabear (Reply #11)

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #18)

Rhiannon12866

(205,949 posts)
21. Since he was an airport employee, they knew who he was and he likely had experience with planes
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:57 AM
Aug 2018

"Most terrorists don't do loops over the water," Sheriff Paul Pastor said. "This might have been a joyride gone terribly wrong."

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
22. "joyride gone terribly wrong"
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:59 AM
Aug 2018

Nah, that guy knew he wasn't coming back. Taking off is the easy part. Especially with planes these days that are very automated and have in failsafes and checks to make sure everything goes smoothly. Landing is the tricky part.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
15. "Nah, I'm a white guy."
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:46 AM
Aug 2018
http://www.twitter.com/jwsthomson/status/1028148043621625856

I'm not saying anything about the dude as he clearly obviously snapped and wanted to go out in a bang. And I really don't think he meant anyone harm other than perhaps himself (though him saying he vomited all over the plane tells me he realized that he just killed himself as soon as he took off without knowing how to land).
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
23. Sad to read that stuff
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:00 AM
Aug 2018

I can't imagine an airport safe enough for a guy in that mental state to attempt a landing

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
26. They were trying to direct him to the military base.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:04 AM
Aug 2018

But he laughed it off and said they wouldn't want that.

He then basically said his plan was to nosedive it safely into the ground.

Which is what he did.

Response to joshcryer (Reply #15)

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
33. Did you even read that Twitter page you linked?
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:15 AM
Aug 2018

The guy is trolling reporters with pictures of testicles.

And he has a really racist video pinned...

Response to exboyfil (Reply #16)

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
49. Yeah, I was composing a "you're being hysterical" reply
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:52 PM
Aug 2018

and by the time I finished it was gone. I think that WeAreQ monicker said it all.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
32. A test pilot for Boeing rolled the prototype 707!
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:14 AM
Aug 2018


Size doesn't matter, as long as the airframe can take a 1G roll like that.

He was quoted as saying something to the effect, that it was a 1 G roll so the aircraft never knew it was upside down!

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
54. As far as commuters...a loop and a barrel roll...Must have been an amateur pilot before...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 06:37 PM
Aug 2018

Such calmness in his voice. The whole event was a look inside a mans soul who's determined he can't take the status quo anymore. Compelling and sad. Didnt hurt anybody but the cheap ass airline he worked for for min wage. RIP Rich.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
25. Weird thought but it's lucky he went down on a tiny island.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:03 AM
Aug 2018

The fire hazard up here is horrible right now. There’s a big one at the crash site but it can’t go anywhere.

Hekate

(90,788 posts)
43. Not a weird thought at all. Too many want to take a lot of people with them...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:43 PM
Aug 2018

Co-workers, ex- wives, ex-girlfriends -- office towers full of people.

By intent or not, everybody got lucky.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
28. At least he didn't take anyone with him.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:44 AM
Aug 2018

Let's be grateful about that at least. He was obviously a troubled person, yet he only killed himself. Sad, but it could have been much, much worse.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
30. Yes
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:08 AM
Aug 2018

And once you hear the actual recordings the man's voice and mental state are more disturbing than the transcripts revealed

KelleyKramer

(8,982 posts)
34. I posted the audio ...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:57 AM
Aug 2018

it's here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210988112


And I agree with your comments, he sounds like a nice, likable guy... but disturbing in that context, and very sad it had to end the way it did

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
36. This happened
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:13 AM
Aug 2018

In my backyard.
I can see Vashon Island clearly
From my bench at the Park there.
We heard the sirens begin at 8:15 or so
As car after car flew to the dock
Close by to take the ferry there.
If it would have hit ANY other Island it would
Have been a disaster. Right across is my town
I've lived in 45 years.
The air is thick with the smell of burning wood
And fuel.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
37. That's what happens when you leave the keys in the ignition switch.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 09:27 AM
Aug 2018

Not really, and I'm not minimizing the seriousness of all this, but there does need to be some sort of external control interlock for starting commercial jets. If you had to have a confirmation code transmitted to the plane before doing the start-up sequence, it would be impossible to steal a plane like that.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
44. Local news discussed that this morning.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:23 PM
Aug 2018

The “expert” (missed exact title) said it was a one off and he didn’t expect changes to be made. The plane was in a cargo area and ACT did an amazing job protecting people once they realized what was going on, both on runways and in the air.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
62. So because of one disturbed employee..
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:39 PM
Aug 2018

Not an outsider, you want to institute a program that might cost hundreds of millions of dollars? The airlines will fight that tooth and nail.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
45. Why does that bother you?
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:24 PM
Aug 2018

Mind you, I’m in Seattle where we’re shocked and sad. But it is an unusual and tragic story.

BannonsLiver

(16,448 posts)
46. You're probably right
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:29 PM
Aug 2018

But there’s good news. There are a myriad of other ways to occupy your time outside of watching 14 hours of MSNBC on a Saturday.

samnsara

(17,635 posts)
52. not the first time someones stolen a plane in wash state and crashed on an island...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:00 PM
Aug 2018

..at first I thought it was the Barefoot Bandit again but was a better pilot.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
57. Yeah that footage is astounding.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:05 PM
Aug 2018

It certainly looked like he was going in. Half the PNW had their phones out videoing him.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
58. Hell of an endorsement for those airframes.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:37 PM
Aug 2018

Guy went Thelma and Louise...but he did'nt hurt anyone. Poor guy. Ugh.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
59. He's Richard Russell.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:04 PM
Aug 2018

Apparently he has a blog and has done YouTube videos. I just heard this on local news. I haven’t looked them up yet.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
61. Just saw his picture.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:26 PM
Aug 2018

Last edited Sat Aug 11, 2018, 09:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Just a normal average guy. Had a bad day, and it seems it got away from him. A cascade of bad choices unfortunately.



Life is cruel, often.
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