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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:07 AM Aug 2018

Avenatti is starting to grate on me

I appreciate him on so many levels but I can't get past his grandstanding by bashing the Democratic Party this close to the midterms.

It's not the presidential election yet.
Seems selfish.

Not very bright politically and potentially damaging to the party in my opinion.

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Avenatti is starting to grate on me (Original Post) SHRED Aug 2018 OP
I'm with you. I'm hoping he's only saying he wants to run for prez. to annoy and scare 45. Laffy Kat Aug 2018 #1
Doubtful that he would bother travelling to Iowa and NH if that was the case oberliner Aug 2018 #21
I think he actually thinks he's now running for President. herding cats Aug 2018 #2
highly polished and articulate ambulance chaser lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #3
The guy's a highly successful attorney onetexan Aug 2018 #6
All that may be true Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2018 #23
How did he bash the Democratic Party? A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2018 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Aug 2018 #5
Here is one SHRED Aug 2018 #12
This is Avenatti Setting Himself Up as a Winner dlk Aug 2018 #28
"Democratic candidates have a tendency to bring nail clippers to a gunfight" oberliner Aug 2018 #22
Explain how he bashed the Democratic Party. brush Aug 2018 #7
Here is one SHRED Aug 2018 #11
I don't see how this salient advice is trashing Dems. I totally agree with him. As an older white mulsh Aug 2018 #14
More SHRED Aug 2018 #16
Well, there have been countless complaints about how the party doesn't fight back against repugs brush Aug 2018 #19
I would have to agree. He has a point. smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #20
He's doing this as a campaign for President 2020 SHRED Aug 2018 #25
He's right though...and we got to start thinking outside the box HipChick Aug 2018 #17
Yeah MFM008 Aug 2018 #8
yeah he needs to stick with lawyering samnsara Aug 2018 #9
Definitely fire him as your lawyer Loki Liesmith Aug 2018 #27
Unless he wins the Iowa primary... kentuck Aug 2018 #10
Does Iowa have a primary? Or a caucus? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2018 #18
Right now we need his voice Generic Brad Aug 2018 #13
Well he has gotten a lot of free publicity from CNN and MSNBC oberliner Aug 2018 #24
"starting to"? Roland99 Aug 2018 #15
"trial attorney seems selfish" Loki Liesmith Aug 2018 #26
I am also in the "wait and see"category. But I don't consider his comments to be bashing Dems. dameatball Aug 2018 #29
I'm more than happy to listen. tavernier Aug 2018 #30
I like his stance on fighting back budkin Aug 2018 #31
maybe he's helping other candidates fly in under the rw hate radar 0rganism Aug 2018 #32
His message could help in the primaries Armymedic88 Aug 2018 #33
I barely pay attention to anything he says. Iggo Aug 2018 #34
I am not a fan either. Tipperary Aug 2018 #35
I like him. Trump is afraid of him. redstateblues Aug 2018 #36
He's always grated on me Raine Aug 2018 #37

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
1. I'm with you. I'm hoping he's only saying he wants to run for prez. to annoy and scare 45.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:40 AM
Aug 2018

I will lose a lot of respect for him if he actually does run.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. Doubtful that he would bother travelling to Iowa and NH if that was the case
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:30 PM
Aug 2018

Seems to be the real deal.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
2. I think he actually thinks he's now running for President.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:50 AM
Aug 2018

It's mind boggling, but I think he believes he's embarking on his 2020. Obviously, without any guidance from people who know how not to alienate people in the party you plan on running in.

onetexan

(13,058 posts)
6. The guy's a highly successful attorney
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 05:32 AM
Aug 2018

Whose won quite a few high profile cases. He's articulate, well spoken, hard charging and the Idiot and his minions are afraid of him. These are qualities especially needed in these times. Do the research before u bash him. He's more qualified than many other candidates aspiring to the presidency.

Response to A-Schwarzenegger (Reply #4)

dlk

(11,575 posts)
28. This is Avenatti Setting Himself Up as a Winner
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:09 PM
Aug 2018

It’s a trial lawyer tactic. Although Avenatti should know better— Hillary actually won.

brush

(53,841 posts)
7. Explain how he bashed the Democratic Party.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 06:58 AM
Aug 2018

I mean we know what bashing the party is thanks to you know who.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
14. I don't see how this salient advice is trashing Dems. I totally agree with him. As an older white
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:52 AM
Aug 2018

guy (61) I believe it's time for the venerated silverbacks of the party to mentor and support the younger candidates who are emerging.

brush

(53,841 posts)
19. Well, there have been countless complaints about how the party doesn't fight back against repugs
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:17 PM
Aug 2018

It is time for a fighter. It may not be him but we know the repugs won't stop cheating so we need someone who isn't afraid to challenge them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. I would have to agree. He has a point.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:23 PM
Aug 2018

It might not be what we want to hear, but we need to face reality if we want to win.

I love this party, but even I recognize that there are some thing that we can improve upon.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
25. He's doing this as a campaign for President 2020
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:51 PM
Aug 2018

I question the timing not so much the message.

What good does this bring for November?

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
27. Definitely fire him as your lawyer
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:58 PM
Aug 2018

I wouldn’t put up with these antics in my attorney and you shouldn’t have to either.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
13. Right now we need his voice
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:50 AM
Aug 2018

We may not need his leadership, but we do need someone who is not afraid of throwing out truth bombs without fear of repercussions. He may be the person who forces a segment of the country to finally come to terms with the corruption of Team Trump.

If that resonates with Democrats and earns him the nomination, I will get behind him. In these crazy times, that very well could happen. It would surprise me, but it is within the realm of possibility if the stars align and he benefits from the perfect storm.

He is in a position at this time to say things other Democratic leaders cannot. He is not my cup of tea, but I do see value in his combativeness. Somebody's got to play the role of outraged crusader battling for justice. It's just odd to see it be a Tony Stark/Bruce Wayne type character.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Well he has gotten a lot of free publicity from CNN and MSNBC
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:34 PM
Aug 2018

So he could very well get the nomination on star power alone.

I would point out that John Delaney has already announced that he is running for the nomination. Ever heard of him?

dameatball

(7,399 posts)
29. I am also in the "wait and see"category. But I don't consider his comments to be bashing Dems.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:19 PM
Aug 2018

Every day DU has at least several comments about how we need to fight harder, stand up to Repugs, etc. Well, in my opinion he is saying the same thing.

tavernier

(12,398 posts)
30. I'm more than happy to listen.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:30 PM
Aug 2018

And as far as all the glorious experience, it was the “experienced gang” that shoved Al Franken out the back door with an added boot up his behind, ridding our party of one of our strongest players. I really can’t see Avenatti playing that game, as he seems more interested in taking out the other team.

I’ll listen to what he has to offer.

budkin

(6,713 posts)
31. I like his stance on fighting back
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:33 PM
Aug 2018

"When they go low, we hit harder."

When will Democrats start following this advice? Instead, Democrats act "concerned" and lose elections. Force is the only thing that works against these GOP monsters.

0rganism

(23,968 posts)
32. maybe he's helping other candidates fly in under the rw hate radar
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:33 PM
Aug 2018

looks to me like he's going out of his way to draw fire. who knows if he runs in the primary or not? if he does, you can vote for someone else. if he doesn't, your issue is solved. i'm not seeing a problem right now, he's operating as an ally.

 

Armymedic88

(251 posts)
33. His message could help in the primaries
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:38 PM
Aug 2018

It might light some fire under our candidates asses and lead to an even stronger finish! We need to realize that what he's saying isn't to be taken personally by members of the party, rather a chance to reignite the fire needed to take down this tyrant!

Iggo

(47,564 posts)
34. I barely pay attention to anything he says.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 04:11 PM
Aug 2018

My attitude is he's a lawyer representing his client, and therefore yes, he's selfish in the extreme, but that everything he says is directed at Trump and Trump's attorneys and I don't have to listen to a word of it other than for entertainment value, Iggo said runonsentencedly.

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