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babylonsister

(171,089 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 09:20 AM Aug 2018

Newspapers Plan Coordinated Response to Trump

https://politicalwire.com/2018/08/10/newspapers-plan-coordinated-response-to-trump/

Newspapers Plan Coordinated Response to Trump
August 10, 2018 at 10:52 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard


The Boston Globe is proposing a coordinated editorial response from publications across the U.S. on August 16th to President Trump’s frequent attacks on the news media, the AP reports.

About 70 outlets had committed to editorials denouncing what the Globe called a “dirty war against the free press,” with the list expected to grow.
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Newspapers Plan Coordinated Response to Trump (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2018 OP
It is about time still_one Aug 2018 #1
This was the exact same sentiment that I came out with... WePurrsevere Aug 2018 #6
They've been taking action all along. If you read the stuff they do Hortensis Aug 2018 #16
I agree they're doing more but IMO it's not been enough if... WePurrsevere Aug 2018 #23
Well, you said it. Let's not blame those who do everything Hortensis Aug 2018 #27
Thank you jayschool2013 Aug 2018 #43
I think it has been pretty lame. Ever since Bernie Goldberg from CBS came out with his book "Bias" still_one Aug 2018 #35
Oh, you're right., Still One I still see that every day also. Hortensis Aug 2018 #38
You're right Hortensis, they are pushing back, and realize the danger involved still_one Aug 2018 #45
Perhaps they should wait until, oh, November 2020 dalton99a Aug 2018 #2
A "free press" is often called the "4th branch of government" for a reason Victor_c3 Aug 2018 #3
Sounds good, but... Wounded Bear Aug 2018 #4
I have to agree. SharonClark Aug 2018 #5
Maybe. Maybe Not. Cheviteau Aug 2018 #22
That was well thought. Harker Aug 2018 #24
CNN and MSNBC are the exceptions. calimary Aug 2018 #56
Totally agree plus Raine Aug 2018 #54
I would suggest walkouts at every event the minute he attacks them... world wide wally Aug 2018 #7
And it would condition Trump... SergeStorms Aug 2018 #18
He's shown he can shit on newspapers. n/t Harker Aug 2018 #25
Good one! SergeStorms Aug 2018 #30
Not without pitchers! n/t Harker Aug 2018 #42
Thing is... SergeStorms Aug 2018 #55
Been homegirl Aug 2018 #28
It was suggested there be only one camera fixed on the podium at a rally, and no reporters LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2018 #52
Instead they could drop the "decorum" and attack back kacekwl Aug 2018 #59
See? They're all in it together. They can't be trusted. Blue_Adept Aug 2018 #8
The Boston Globe has been way out in front, re: Trump TheCowsCameHome Aug 2018 #9
FAKE Response!!!!! sellitman Aug 2018 #10
Good for them. smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #11
This needs to be literally thousands of media platforms. Notably excluding fox. Augiedog Aug 2018 #12
K&R... spanone Aug 2018 #13
I guess Donald Trump isn't so great for the media after al FakeNoose Aug 2018 #14
Have they finally woke up to see their heads in the guillotine. sunonmars Aug 2018 #15
Just like the FBI and all the Trump lovers/Hillary haters in it workinclasszero Aug 2018 #21
Too bad they didn't do something like this before Shitler came to power workinclasszero Aug 2018 #17
They'll save up their collective ire for when a Dem takes over after the next election. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2018 #39
Wake up America! oasis Aug 2018 #19
A powerful idea! Institutions are more durable than Trump bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #20
The freedom of the press is enshrined in the Constitution bronxiteforever Aug 2018 #26
And if that doesn't do the trick hurple Aug 2018 #29
It isn't the media's job to "bring that mofo down". Caliman73 Aug 2018 #40
This would've stopped Hitler imho uponit7771 Aug 2018 #31
Collusion! CanonRay Aug 2018 #32
Now buy a paper! defacto7 Aug 2018 #33
Well, Al-le-lu-i-ahh❗ sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #34
KICK! Hekate Aug 2018 #36
'Bout damn time. Should've never let him get away with it. flying_wahini Aug 2018 #37
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #41
Our watchdog press is the ONLY check we have on Trump at this time. Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #44
heh, the sternly worded letter. KG Aug 2018 #46
MSM helped get Drumpt elected. Now they are kairos12 Aug 2018 #47
Great to hear it. They MUST fight back. We ALL must! nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #48
About time they fought back. PatrickforO Aug 2018 #49
Years ago,,I tooks a course in Constitutional History...Amendment One was discussed a lot.. Stuart G Aug 2018 #50
Yes!! nt LAS14 Aug 2018 #51
If only locks Aug 2018 #53
This Is Necessary Progressive Jones Aug 2018 #57
Mahalo Newspapers for Fighting Back Against Cha Aug 2018 #58

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
6. This was the exact same sentiment that I came out with...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:01 AM
Aug 2018

Trump is waging war on the Constitution and the free press, that our forefathers felt so strongly was needed to monitor gov that they included it in the 1st Amend.

I can't believe it's taken them this long. Personally I think all of the news media needs to do more than just publish/say words. They must follow up on it with actions.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. They've been taking action all along. If you read the stuff they do
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:27 AM
Aug 2018

about their own industry, you'll see they've been working on how to deal with Trump and the rising fascism and social conservatism that produced his presidency.

Journalists have been changing a number of longstanding practices based on honorable journalistic principles that are no longer working as they did. They adopt various new practices, some work, some have to be adjusted all over again as Trump's administration, Fox, other inimical right-wing forces work around those. Actions.

And, of course, they've been editorializing and devoting vast amounts of coverage to what's happening. Investigative journalism has had a renaissance. Actions. Words.

Let's hope this coordinated editorial event response to fascistic attacks on the fourth estate itself gets some attention from some who weren't already paying attention. That editorial boards nationwide are joining in shows how worried they are.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
23. I agree they're doing more but IMO it's not been enough if...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:05 AM
Aug 2018

It's not being heard/seen by enough average Americans who are all too often people who are not looking for it and seem to want their news served up on a silver platter complete with being told what they should make of it if my Facebook feed and comments on news articles I read are anything at all to go by.

In contrast most DUers are people who will look for information, even dig for it, & check facts. Sadly we're still in the minority but while it may be wishful thinking, I do still have hope.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Well, you said it. Let's not blame those who do everything
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:23 AM
Aug 2018

short of hand-delivering the news on silver platters to 200M breakfast tables. All they can do is publish those words. Listening and reading are up to us.

Fwiw, after decades of claims that investigative journalism was dying, it's bigger and better than ever before.

What we really need that we don't have is what we once required of broadcast news: A single hour in the day committed to delivering honest news in the public service. But more honest news than anyone could possibly take in is available 24/7/365 on the web. And large amounts are totally free.

still_one

(92,382 posts)
35. I think it has been pretty lame. Ever since Bernie Goldberg from CBS came out with his book "Bias"
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:17 PM
Aug 2018

in 2001, the press has been going out of their way to paint a picture of "equivalencies" between republicans and Democrats for fear that they would be labelled as "the liberal media", however, that actually ends up distorting things.

Chuck Todd actually characterized the state of the media quite well when he said "It’s Not Media’s Job To Correct falsehoods made by politicians.". That of course is nonesense. Not only is it their job, but their responsibility.

Matt Lauer's interview of Hillary Clinton, verses his softball interview with Donald Trump is just one of many examples of how the media pretty much gave Trump a free pass, and setup the situation we find ourselves in today.

It has only been recently when I have actually read and heard members of the fourth estate actually refer to trump's lies, as lies



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. Oh, you're right., Still One I still see that every day also.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:06 PM
Aug 2018

But in this case I was addressing what the press are doing now to counter what this administration is spearheading.

And what I afterward wished I'd said, instead of talking about journalism, was my belief that we need focus on the real problems of the takeover of the right by the anti-democracy forces of malignant social conservatism, Christian dominionism, and cultural and economic fascism.

All this is about that, after all. We need to stay focused on what they are doing.

The right was already rejecting honest news when Fox was formed to meet that market by telling them what they wanted to hear; now, of course, what once at least pretended to be a real news source is now a major actor in the attempted overthrow of our democracy. And of course these malignant forces have been working all along to take over the fourth estate, with successes we can see clearly in some blatant acts, only strongly suspect/believe in many widespread patterns of dishonest reporting.

America's right-wing authoritarian voters, excited by recent victories and what they see as a strong leader, now hope to put an end to decades of losses at the polls under liberal democracy by replacing it with a white authoritarian government. Even more than they always did, they will reject all information that doesn't support their rising storm.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
3. A "free press" is often called the "4th branch of government" for a reason
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 09:52 AM
Aug 2018

It is vitally important in preventing a tyrannical government - probably moreso than the 2nd amendment.

Wounded Bear

(58,704 posts)
4. Sounds good, but...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 09:54 AM
Aug 2018

IIRC almost every newspaper in the country backed Hillary.

Love the optimism, but print doesn't have the impact it once did. Hopefully this bleeds over to the Internets.

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
22. Maybe. Maybe Not.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:52 AM
Aug 2018

Turn on any news channel (except Faux Noise) and see how often you hear, The Washington Post is reporting...The New York Times just reported... The Wall Street Journal has a story today... You get the picture. Print news is not as glamorous as sitting in front of a camera with coiffed hair and pearly whites; it's wearing out shoe leather and scrounging around for productive leads.

Their impact is not as visible as it once was, but don't underestimate their importance to a storyline.

Harker

(14,034 posts)
24. That was well thought.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:12 AM
Aug 2018

Print may lack glamour, but it does help drive a lot of reporting elsewhere.

I think a statement made en masse will prove newsworthy on its own merit.

The press is the enemy of the people who don't want to think or care.

calimary

(81,458 posts)
56. CNN and MSNBC are the exceptions.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:22 PM
Aug 2018

They routinely bring editorial columnists and print reporters with front-page bylines onto their shows. Some come on so frequently that they're added as regular "contributors" and "analysts".

But you're right. Print people usually aren't that preoccupied with camera-ready appearances. When I went to the AP, I noticed that immediately. Most of the bureau was print people. Our little radio corner was just that. Near the end of the room just in front of where the photo guys worked. It was a room full of "mild-mannered Clark Kents" - male AND female versions. No Lois Lanes, though.

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
7. I would suggest walkouts at every event the minute he attacks them...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:02 AM
Aug 2018

At rallies, press conferences, or public meetings. It would only be "news" for a few days and then become SOP until it stops.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
18. And it would condition Trump...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:45 AM
Aug 2018

like training a little puppy, that if he wants good press, he has to earn it! They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks (I saw that old adage destroyed on 'MythBusters' ) but Trump isn't as intelligent as an old dog, so it probably wouldn't work on him.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
55. Thing is...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 09:25 PM
Aug 2018

that's exactly how the Mango in Chief would spell it on one of his notorious tweets. Then he'd blame it on autocorrect.

homegirl

(1,433 posts)
28. Been
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:28 AM
Aug 2018

saying that since the first time he, or his proxy attacked the press. They should have stood up and walked out. Deny Donald the coverage he lives on.

52. It was suggested there be only one camera fixed on the podium at a rally, and no reporters
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:09 PM
Aug 2018

in the cage where the news media is corralled and kept from wandering around gathering information (which makes them a harder target for Donnie Two Scoops to point at), there's a sign saying, "Fuck you. Love, First Amendment."

The reporters can watch the live feed from the safety of a nearby Waffle House. If anything newsworthy is said the sound bite could be worked into the final report, and if it's significant, breaking news.

Meanwhile, those pecan waffles are yum-yum good!

kacekwl

(7,021 posts)
59. Instead they could drop the "decorum" and attack back
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 08:34 AM
Aug 2018

with the facts and press for real answers. SHS and the like have made fool's of the press and in turn us for too long.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Good for them.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:07 AM
Aug 2018

I am glad they are taking the lead in this response. Something needs to be done to counter this dangerous propaganda coming from the White House.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. Just like the FBI and all the Trump lovers/Hillary haters in it
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:51 AM
Aug 2018

How's that working out for you now, idiots?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
17. Too bad they didn't do something like this before Shitler came to power
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:38 AM
Aug 2018

They were too busy counting their money made from Trump's circus to give a shit then.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
39. They'll save up their collective ire for when a Dem takes over after the next election.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:19 PM
Aug 2018

Whoever our candidate is the press will have them on a short leash to make up for the slack they gave Trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
20. A powerful idea! Institutions are more durable than Trump
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 10:47 AM
Aug 2018

This is great news for the Fourth Estate to step up!!

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
26. The freedom of the press is enshrined in the Constitution
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:20 AM
Aug 2018

The Con mocks the Constitution; the only document that holds us together as Americans. He violates his oath to defend the Constitution.

I never thought I would live to see the Bill of Rights so openly mocked by the supposed guardian of those sacred rights.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
29. And if that doesn't do the trick
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 11:32 AM
Aug 2018

Next, they should hit him with a very sternly worded leaflet campaign.



No, what they should do is release the hounds and bring that mofo down.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
40. It isn't the media's job to "bring that mofo down".
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:21 PM
Aug 2018

A free and objective press is necessary for Democracy to flourish.

What the press should be doing and should have been doing all along is reporting the information in an honest and accurate way. Trump's actions are sufficient so that they should have brought him down with simple, honest reporting. The problem with the media is that the idea of "access" and acceptance by the political system and the drive to increase revenue has dictated their stance toward Trump.

Nixon hated the media because they kept reporting what he was doing and they just kept asking him difficult and necessary questions about his actions. Trump attacks the media because they don't fawn over him, but they gave him over 2 billion dollars worth of free advertising during the primary and general elections

He should be taking himself down not the press. The press should just be reporting accurately, the actions he is taking that cause him to go down.

sprinkleeninow

(20,255 posts)
34. Well, Al-le-lu-i-ahh❗
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:14 PM
Aug 2018

They're the group getting their chops busted by * so it's about dang time❗🚨🚧

💙🇺🇸🌊

flying_wahini

(6,646 posts)
37. 'Bout damn time. Should've never let him get away with it.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:23 PM
Aug 2018


As I live in Texas I'm quite sure the Houston Chronicle will sting him but not so sure
about the Dallas Morning News.
And it goes without saying that the Austin American Statesmen will shine.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
44. Our watchdog press is the ONLY check we have on Trump at this time.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:56 PM
Aug 2018

The majority in the co-equal third branch of government, Congress, has abdicated its oath to the Constitution.

But members of the press are facing down real threats, working with professionalism and finesse to find the news and bring it to the people.

Example. Jonathan Lemire of AP stood before Trump and Putin and asked THE two questions that transformed coverage of this WH and its scandal. Lemire says that Putin was staring him down while he asked the question. Putin kills journalists. Lemire is just a working man with a family. Doggedly chasing the news. Working his craft, his profession, with finesse.

I have nothing but respect for our top print journalists -- who never thought when they went to J-school that they would be standing between the people and tyranny. But they are.

If you want to get acquainted with our print journos, watch Brian Williams' news roundup at 11 EDT MSNBC. The top reporters chasing the day's news are there, live.

See FB page "People's Bill Of Rights For White House Transparency"

kairos12

(12,871 posts)
47. MSM helped get Drumpt elected. Now they are
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 06:41 PM
Aug 2018

panicking because Shitler has attacked them. Welcome to the party pal. And thanks for nothing.

Stuart G

(38,440 posts)
50. Years ago,,I tooks a course in Constitutional History...Amendment One was discussed a lot..
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:59 PM
Aug 2018

The professor said.."The first Amendment to the Constitution has the strongest language in law.
It says Congress shall make NO Law..and NO is a very simple word. And it was on purpose..

Here are the exact words of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the USA.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

locks

(2,012 posts)
53. If only
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:23 PM
Aug 2018

It is too late for most newspapers in the US to make any difference with editorial response against Trump's attacks on the news media. Have you noticed lately what has happened to your local newspaper? When I was growing up in Indianapolis we had two newspapers and though both were owned by big money we could usually get more than one side of the news and this was true in most big cities like Chicago.

In April of this year a huge hedge fund headquartered in New York City, Alden Global Capital, bought the Denver Post and almost all of the local newspapers in Colorado. The Washington Post called Alden "one of the most ruthless of the corporate strip mines seemingly intent on destroying local journalism." Through it's subsidiary Digital First Media (the second largest newspaper company in the U.S), Alden owns nearly one hundred daily and weekly papers. In California it effectively owns every major newspaper around Los Angeles and San Francisco with the exception of the San Francisco Chronicle and the Los Angeles Times. Soon after purchasing the Denver Post Alden laid off 240 of its 300 news and editorial staff. We now get very few objective editorials and even fewer letters to the editors. You can imagine how few articles ever mention Trump's and Big Energy's lies. The Boulder Daily Camera, a local paper which was known for its coverage of local political and cultural interests, immediately fired its award winning editor and one-third of the staff.

This is a disaster for the cities but even worse for small communities who get only FOXnews and Sinclair newspapers.

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