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Pluvious

(4,315 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:36 PM Aug 2018

Former Top KGB General Says Trump is a Russian Asset and he Likely Knows it (new book out on 14th)

Should this all turn out true, it does certainly explain a lot.


Daily Mail reports that a new book by Craig Unger, entitled ‘House of Trump, House of Putin; the Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia‘, claims that President Trump is and has been a Russian asset since 1987.

In 1987 Donald Trump travelled to Moscow, and Unger says that the former head of counterintelligence for the KGB, Oleg Kalugin, insists that Trump would have very likely been filmed with prostitutes at that time, saying that Trump had ‘many young ladies at his disposal’ and that Russian spies would have jumped at the opportunity.

Kalugin also claims that Trump is an easy ‘Russian asset’ considering how greedy he has been over the years. He goes as far as saying that Trump is most likely aware of the existence of blackmail material often referred to as ‘kompromat’.

If Russia was likely willing to gather ‘kompromat’ on Trump 31 years ago, it would seem to give further credence to the Steele Dossier which claims that Russia had gathered ‘kompromat’ on Trump back in 2013 as well. It’s worth noting that no proof of this blackmail material was provided to Unger by Kalugin — only his opinion on what most likely would have taken place at the time of Trump’s visit to Moscow.


https://hillreporter.com/former-top-kgb-general-says-trump-is-a-russian-asset-and-he-likely-knows-it-5526/amp
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Former Top KGB General Says Trump is a Russian Asset and he Likely Knows it (new book out on 14th) (Original Post) Pluvious Aug 2018 OP
kick for visibility triron Aug 2018 #1
Will the pain from sanctions.... Maxheader Aug 2018 #2
My guess is The Handler knows the current limits... Pluvious Aug 2018 #3
Do you suspect that Melania is a Russian assigned handler/agent? CottonBear Aug 2018 #5
I do suspect that Rorey Aug 2018 #9
I worried about that when he was running for president. colorado_ufo Aug 2018 #14
"Beauty"? Liberalagogo Aug 2018 #22
I think she has eyes like a wolf's. Texin Aug 2018 #29
Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder colorado_ufo Aug 2018 #34
A spank model Liberalagogo Aug 2018 #35
aren't the parents living in the WH? Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #31
Considering Soviet and Russian spy history in general and Putin's KGB experience it Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #4
They likely collect dirt on any foreign man or woman that has power. Blue_true Aug 2018 #18
Precisely Blue True and Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #23
Yep. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #25
republican treason against America is an ABOMINATION Achilleaze Aug 2018 #6
Hmmm, more confirmation of when Trump said at his summit with Putin that if the Russians sueh Aug 2018 #7
K&R mountain grammy Aug 2018 #8
K&R! orangecrush Aug 2018 #10
I thought it was all mail-order brides and adoptions bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #11
My magic 8 Ball says... Brother Buzz Aug 2018 #12
I doubt it. Everyone knows Omarosa, she'll get a ton more publicity. 7962 Aug 2018 #19
Yeah, but by how much. Blue_true Aug 2018 #21
A couple of things pintobean Aug 2018 #13
"further credence to the Steele Dossier" - let's go ahead & say it: It's TRUE, ALL true!1 UTUSN Aug 2018 #15
So I gotta ask................... turbinetree Aug 2018 #16
I still believe Putin has all the kompromat he could dream for thbobby Aug 2018 #17
Has Dotard by the nether parts financially. Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #37
an ASSET ?? that sounds awful to me. trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #20
Of all the things in this Russian fiasco with trump The Liberal Lion Aug 2018 #24
K&R jrthin Aug 2018 #26
Trump is probably flattered that they wanted him as an asset. bitterross Aug 2018 #27
International man of mystery LiberalLovinLug Aug 2018 #33
Misspelled? Russian "Asshat"? NRaleighLiberal Aug 2018 #28
Ha! Roland99 Aug 2018 #32
Not that we didn't already know it, but it's good to have it said by Ferrets are Cool Aug 2018 #30
WHo amongst us is not completely SHOCKED by such shocking information? None of us guessed that Amaryllis Aug 2018 #36
K & R lastlib Aug 2018 #38
According to Malcolm Nance NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #39

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)
2. Will the pain from sanctions....
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:00 PM
Aug 2018

Make put put tell all? Throw out any advantages from having a
russian spy in the presidency of your worst enemy?

Pluvious

(4,315 posts)
3. My guess is The Handler knows the current limits...
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:07 PM
Aug 2018

... to his Asset's actual power.

As long as its usefulness outweighs the value of unmasking it, he'll continue the current course.

History will not be kind to our obliviousness and complacency.

If we fail to turn out in record numbers and remove the accomplices from office, we'll have none but ourselves to blame.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
5. Do you suspect that Melania is a Russian assigned handler/agent?
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:39 PM
Aug 2018

I have often wondered about his two Eastern European wives who were born in USSR affiliated communist countries.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
9. I do suspect that
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:56 PM
Aug 2018

It defies logic that she would have stayed with him through his infidelities if she was a *normal* spouse. Maybe it seems like I'm a conspiracy theorist about this, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. She was placed.

colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
14. I worried about that when he was running for president.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:16 PM
Aug 2018

However, I do have my doubts about that now. I feel that she is verbally and who knows how else abused, and Trump keeps her under his thumb. She is very frustrated and is starting to show that publicly. What I do suspect is her father, who I understand used to work for Russia. Now he and his wife are both US citizens. I think that Melania, due to her beauty, was a very convenient way fior her father to get close to Trump.

Uncle Joe

(58,414 posts)
4. Considering Soviet and Russian spy history in general and Putin's KGB experience it
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:37 PM
Aug 2018

would be totally logical for them to have dirt on Trump.


Thanks for the thread Pluvious

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. They likely collect dirt on any foreign man or woman that has power.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:46 PM
Aug 2018

Getting caught doing kinky sex is the ultimate dirt for them, even if the man or woman caught was single. Russia has a pretty long history of using beautiful young women to compromise powerful men.

Uncle Joe

(58,414 posts)
23. Precisely Blue True and
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:56 PM
Aug 2018

considering Trump's unrestrained sexual history combined with his fatal flaw of extreme self-aggrandizement and propensity to flattery would make him an exceptionally easy mark.

sueh

(1,826 posts)
7. Hmmm, more confirmation of when Trump said at his summit with Putin that if the Russians
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 01:48 PM
Aug 2018

had anything on Trump, they would have revealed it by now?

bucolic_frolic

(43,272 posts)
11. I thought it was all mail-order brides and adoptions
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:10 PM
Aug 2018

How did we ever get into this mess, and how is it that we can't get out of it?

Ok, foreign powers found a Constitutional loophole, and a willing GOP to exploit it. Now what?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
19. I doubt it. Everyone knows Omarosa, she'll get a ton more publicity.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:47 PM
Aug 2018

regardless of the accuracy of the book it will sell and she'll get a nice tour out of it

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
13. A couple of things
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:14 PM
Aug 2018

The last line in the excerpt says that it's just speculation.

If it is true, they can't blackmail Trump for something he would be proud of.

turbinetree

(24,713 posts)
16. So I gotta ask...................
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:38 PM
Aug 2018

if all of these "judges" being put on the bench, can they be removed, after all if this fucker is a "asset" and most of the evidence is showing that he is, then everyone of these fuckers being put the bench, should be removed.........................





November 2018 cannot get here fast enough.......................vote

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
17. I still believe Putin has all the kompromat he could dream for
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:44 PM
Aug 2018

on trump and the entire gop as he enabled their electoral wins in 2016 and probably several previous elections. Russian money through NRA and other venues. Social Media manipulation. trump and the gop are compromised by their lust for power enabled by Russia. Any other kompromat they may have pales in comparison to the gop traitors conspiring with Russia to maintain electoral relevance.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
24. Of all the things in this Russian fiasco with trump
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:56 PM
Aug 2018

that it would bother him to have been filmed with prostitutes, even if they peed on him, is something I don't believe. I believe, were it true, he'd take pride in it. I believe he's on the take for putin, via the Russian mob, but it has nothing to do with sex as it has to do with finance.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
27. Trump is probably flattered that they wanted him as an asset.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 03:14 PM
Aug 2018

For some reason, it took until just now for me to realize Trump is probably proud that he is a Russian asset. He loves attention so much that I wouldn't be surprised at all that he's very flattered and proud that the Russians wanted him. It gives him some status and that is exactly what he craves most.

He probably revels in all of this and views himself like he's some sort of secret agent man.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
33. International man of mystery
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 05:20 PM
Aug 2018

He sees himself as this:





But the majority of Americans and people around the world see him as this



Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
36. WHo amongst us is not completely SHOCKED by such shocking information? None of us guessed that
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:18 PM
Aug 2018

he's been in it up to his eyeballs for YEARS! Duh.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
39. According to Malcolm Nance
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 10:37 AM
Aug 2018

The KGB, and now FSB, have long targeted self-centered narcissistic wealthy right wingers because they're so self-absorbed that it's easy to "turn" them - even when it was the Soviet Union and essentially the opposite politically from these right wingers.

Nance speculates they may have started gathering info on Trump as far back in the late 70s when he was married to Ivana Trump and visited Czechoslovakia to meet her family.

This definitely seems to be in line with that kind of thinking

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