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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 05:08 PM Aug 2018

APNewsBreak: Green Party candidate was on state GOP payroll

https://www.apnews.com/aae15528a9fe415282402c4e14090c75

HELENA, Mont. (AP) — A man who registered as a Green Party candidate for Montana’s U.S. Senate race was on the state Republican Party’s payroll and heads a newly formed anti-tax group, according to a review of election documents.

Timothy Adams filed as a challenger Monday against Democratic Sen. Jon Tester, who faces a tough re-election campaign, in a race where a Green Party candidate could siphon votes from the Democrat.

The Green Party qualified as a political party in Montana on Monday, which was also the state’s deadline for candidates to file for office. Green Party officials blasted an email that morning to solicit candidates who could register by the day’s end.



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The Green party is essentially a GOP operation, certainly explains Jill Stein.
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APNewsBreak: Green Party candidate was on state GOP payroll (Original Post) sunonmars Aug 2018 OP
republican "values" are formed of cesspool scum Achilleaze Aug 2018 #1
Honesty and integrity are not in redumbliCON DNA. democratisphere Aug 2018 #3
They are ReTHUGs in name and nature - malaise Aug 2018 #6
+ 1 red dog 1 Aug 2018 #16
I am SHOCKED SHOCKED to find gambling on here. nycbos Aug 2018 #2
I was going to post this same thing! obamanut2012 Aug 2018 #7
... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #8
What a shocking revelation. ooky Aug 2018 #4
Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 for a reason Gothmog Aug 2018 #5
+1 dalton99a Aug 2018 #15
The master of Coitus Rodentia, Roger Stone, financed and managed Al Sharpton's 2004 primary campaign Marcuse Aug 2018 #20
Coitus Rodentia rurallib Aug 2018 #21
I'd hardly call him a spoiler in that race JonLP24 Aug 2018 #31
that's why they hate democrats so much JI7 Aug 2018 #9
Yep. Confirmed! The Dems need to start playing like that. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #10
Published March 13 in case this sounds familiar. progree Aug 2018 #11
the article is dated back in march orleans Aug 2018 #12
from salon orleans Aug 2018 #13
Thanks for that link red dog 1 Aug 2018 #19
Second time in 2 days somebody "discovered" this "news" from March. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #14
It's not posted in LBN, so what's the problem? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #17
Presenting a 5-month old story as if it was a breaking story - progree Aug 2018 #22
Why do you care? Are you a representative of the Greens? And like I said, it's not posted in LBN.. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #23
And like I said, it's presenting a 5 month old story as a breaking news story progree Aug 2018 #25
You should just stop. Thou doth protest too much. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #34
I appreciate the post. blue cat Aug 2018 #26
I appreciated the post too progree Aug 2018 #28
I can't wait to tell my green voting friends! blue cat Aug 2018 #27
Yes, why are we re-hashing months-old divisive news right before mid-terms? pecosbob Aug 2018 #18
We discuss ratfuckery here all the time. Should it matter if it comes from Repukes or Greens? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #24
The Green Party isn't going anywhere blue cat Aug 2018 #30
Divisive? kcr Aug 2018 #33
there is no harmony with those who want democrats to lose JI7 Aug 2018 #35
The GOP in Arizona was caught trying to sign up homeless people in Tempe JonLP24 Aug 2018 #29
Cuz no one knew that would be happening uponit7771 Aug 2018 #32

Gothmog

(145,501 posts)
5. Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 for a reason
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 05:21 PM
Aug 2018

I will never forgive nader Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html


Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Nader’s campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the AP’s Laura Meckler headlined “GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads.” She opened: “Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... ‘Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of,’ Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: ‘What’s Al Gore’s real record?’ Nader says: ‘Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken.’” Meckler’s report continued: “A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Nader’s speeches.” Bush’s people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....

On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined “GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independent’s Bid a Financial Lift,” and reported that the Nader campaign “has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party,” according to “an analysis of federal records.” Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egan’s other friends. Mr. Egan’s wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was “Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year.” Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under “Swift Boat Veterans for Nader,” that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerry’s Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that “the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Nader’s signatures in their state” (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing state’s 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bush’s big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, “A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.”

It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bush’s real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. That’s why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
31. I'd hardly call him a spoiler in that race
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 12:55 AM
Aug 2018

I agreed with most of what he was saying probably because he didn't have a chance like Kucinich though Kucinich lost me in recent years over his Assad support.

These days you got to watch who you hire as a campaign manager and make sure they don't get hacked.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. Yep. Confirmed! The Dems need to start playing like that.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 06:55 PM
Aug 2018

When the other side plays dirty, taking the high road leaves you lonely on a dark, dead end.

orleans

(34,073 posts)
13. from salon
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:09 PM
Aug 2018

"While Adams' bid to represent the Green Party fell short by 300 or so votes in June, reports on his GOP ties show that Democratic misgivings with the Green Party might be warranted. Political commentators on Twitter are now openly questioning whether the Green Party is corrupted."

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/11/green-party-candidate-in-montana-was-on-gop-payroll/

on edit, add this from the article:
"Democrats in Montana may be able to survive any double-dealing on the part of the Green Party. In July, a Montana judge disqualified the Green Party from appearing on the general election ballot for failing to gather enough signatures to put its candidates on the ticket. The decision has been appealed."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,034 posts)
14. Second time in 2 days somebody "discovered" this "news" from March.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:17 PM
Aug 2018

Neither cared to read the date easily seen near the top of the article.

What's up?

progree

(10,914 posts)
22. Presenting a 5-month old story as if it was a breaking story -
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:50 PM
Aug 2018
APNewsBreak: Green Party candidate was on state GOP payroll

...

The Green Party qualified as a political party in Montana on Monday, ...

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
23. Why do you care? Are you a representative of the Greens? And like I said, it's not posted in LBN..
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:58 PM
Aug 2018

so there's no problem unless you're looking for one.

progree

(10,914 posts)
25. And like I said, it's presenting a 5 month old story as a breaking news story
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 12:35 AM
Aug 2018

by making it sound like a "breaking" or otherwise recent news story when it is 5 months ago. Misleading one's fellow Democrats is no more welcome in GD than in LBN, or any other group or forum here, or compatible with the values of this website.

I am very fine with the topic of Greens-Republicans-Republican donors ties being discussed and brought up over and over again and again -- it should be. Few here have spent more time than me bashing the idiots who claim Nader's candidacy didn't affect the outcome of the 2000 election, or ridiculing other Green or purist crap that shows up at JPR.

progree

(10,914 posts)
28. I appreciated the post too
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 12:50 AM
Aug 2018

I am very fine with the topic of Greens-Republicans-Republican donors ties being discussed and brought up over and over again and again -- it should be. Few here have spent more time than me bashing the idiots who claim Nader's candidacy didn't affect the outcome of the 2000 election, or ridiculing other Green or purist crap that shows up at JPR.

I just wish it had been presented honestly -- something that happened months ago -- and not as a breaking news story. Misleading ones fellow Democrats is not compatible with the values of this website.

So just hush

So just hush

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
27. I can't wait to tell my green voting friends!
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 12:50 AM
Aug 2018

Thank you so much for posting this article. I really appreciate it.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
18. Yes, why are we re-hashing months-old divisive news right before mid-terms?
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:36 PM
Aug 2018

Could be that disharmony was what someone intended?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
24. We discuss ratfuckery here all the time. Should it matter if it comes from Repukes or Greens?
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 08:13 PM
Aug 2018

People here have to get over the notion that Democrats have anything in common with the Green Party, and articles like this are an appropriate reminder. Not everyone reads this board daily, and many might never have heard of this case. Let's stop pretending that Greens are allies, and focus on them as adversaries just like any other opposing party.

blue cat

(2,415 posts)
30. The Green Party isn't going anywhere
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 12:52 AM
Aug 2018

Neither is this rat fuckery so you’re point doesn’t make any sense. I’m going to shout it every single time anyone ever brings up the Green Party forever.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
33. Divisive?
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 02:01 AM
Aug 2018

So, I guess anything's considered divisive these days. Guess no one should ever talk about the GOP again either. It's the weather from now on. Oops, climate change! We'll all have to hum a tune for fear of accidentally saying something divisive.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
29. The GOP in Arizona was caught trying to sign up homeless people in Tempe
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 12:52 AM
Aug 2018

To run for Green Party though they haven't done that since the early 2000s awhile ago.

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