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Rachel is nailing it (Original Post) malaise Aug 2018 OP
Yup, as usual..... a kennedy Aug 2018 #1
Rachel is depressing me ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #2
There is so much evidence of instruction of justice malaise Aug 2018 #3
I certainly hope they are all going down ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #5
Obstruction perhaps? avebury Aug 2018 #7
Obstruction and conspiracy malaise Aug 2018 #11
I would hope that most rational people would avebury Aug 2018 #4
Absolutely correct malaise Aug 2018 #33
They may have been booted from the FBI leftieNanner Aug 2018 #6
Yes they can malaise Aug 2018 #12
Agree. Just because they are no longer RealNewzFakePrez Aug 2018 #29
They aren't dead The Blue Flower Aug 2018 #8
I know. The point Rachel is making is that their reputations have been besmirched ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #10
Red Don can't besmirch a reputation among patriots, he's a sell out uponit7771 Aug 2018 #19
Ok, Rachel is overdoing it and I'm overreacting to her portrayal of a dismal situation. ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #21
She's who she is TimeToGo Aug 2018 #23
Yep, how anyone can give him any credibility is way beyond me. triron Aug 2018 #26
Maybe she finally figured out she has overhyped the consequences all along Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #18
What is the less idiotic method of seeing where we are likely to be down the road? tia uponit7771 Aug 2018 #20
The firing of the witnesses to Comey's retaliatory firing is evidence of obstruction of Sophia4 Aug 2018 #31
The truth hurts. Sophia4 Aug 2018 #32
I think she is going overboard rufus dog Aug 2018 #9
Can't stand when she goes into concern troll mode budkin Aug 2018 #14
They are sacrificial lambs fired or pressured out to appease Trump wishstar Aug 2018 #13
I agree. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #16
A reasonable possibility. I am quite fond of Rep. Jim Himes. eom sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #28
I'm champing at the bit here canetoad Aug 2018 #15
I'm looking forward to the next Democratic president (2020)to bluestarone Aug 2018 #17
My only rule: If there is more than a 30 second mention of Omerosa oasis Aug 2018 #22
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! orangecrush Aug 2018 #24
Rachel was great Gothmog Aug 2018 #25
So did Bowditch bow to Trump to save his own skin? triron Aug 2018 #27
Why ... all who deign to receive His Lordship's Graces must bend the knee!?! mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #30

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
2. Rachel is depressing me
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:20 PM
Aug 2018

I'm sorry, M, but I cannot bear to watch her. She has basically stated there is no one left to corroborate Comey's testimony.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
7. Obstruction perhaps?
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:29 PM
Aug 2018


A person would have to be deaf, mute and blind to not realize that Trump and his minions are operating a criminal enterprise that is aided and abetted by the Republican controlled Congress. Forget draining the swamp, they want to drain the U S Treasury and totally destroy the Federal Government. They view the majority of people as nothing more than canon fodder for the military or serfs to serve the wealthy.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. I would hope that most rational people would
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:25 PM
Aug 2018

realize that there is no way that all of theses FBI agents who have been hounded out of office are bad people. I don't buy it at all. To me it comes across as Trump and his minions continuing to interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation. This is the most corrupt administration ever and it is supported by a corrupt Republican controlled Congress.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
33. Absolutely correct
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 05:31 AM
Aug 2018

It is the vile, vindictive cretin and his goons who are trying to destroy every institution that does not bow down before him.

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
6. They may have been booted from the FBI
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:28 PM
Aug 2018

but they're still here. I don't see why Mueller can't call them back to testify.

The thing that makes me upset is how much talent and years of experience that we have lost at both the FBI and State Department. I hope that we can restore these people to their rightful jobs in 2021.

 

RealNewzFakePrez

(75 posts)
29. Agree. Just because they are no longer
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 01:31 AM
Aug 2018

at the FBI certainly doesn't mean they can't provide testimony or evidence. Trump can't have it both ways. If he still wants to go after them after they leave the FBI, then they can defend themselves and/or go after him.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
10. I know. The point Rachel is making is that their reputations have been besmirched
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:36 PM
Aug 2018

Whether or not that influences anyone is to be decided.

TimeToGo

(1,366 posts)
23. She's who she is
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 11:42 PM
Aug 2018

You have to take her performed pessimism and put it off in the corner of your mind and then watch for the information she provides.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
18. Maybe she finally figured out she has overhyped the consequences all along
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:25 PM
Aug 2018

If so, bravo to Rachel for briefly joining the real world.

I don't know any of the specifics but that has been my big picture conclusion all along, and oft stated here, that no kidding Trump and company colluded and schemed and crimed throughout. There will never be enough evidence to prove it, not when and where it matters.

Donald Trump will effectively skate, and spend the rest of his term chirping about it with terms like witch hunt.

That is what we have been facing all along. I still can't believe so many people waste time and spoil their perspective by following day to day details. That is the absolute worst and most idiotic method possible, if you actually want to see where we are likely to be down the road.

I say briefly for Rachel because her instincts are so brutal she'll have no clue toward the type of mistake she made, and therefore she'll repeat the same flawed process again. The day to day detail types can't help themselves from that type of comical error. Absolutely scary to go through life that way.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
31. The firing of the witnesses to Comey's retaliatory firing is evidence of obstruction of
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:22 AM
Aug 2018

justice. And the firing of individuals in the Justice Department who led or participated in the investigation of the Russian ties of participants in Trump's campaign is also evidence of obstruction of justice and maybe worse.

Trump is his own worst enemy in this matter.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
32. The truth hurts.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:29 AM
Aug 2018

Rachel points to painful truths that hurt all who voted for Trump.

I find the details fascinating. How could Republicans seriously think that the American people will turn a blind eye to their collaboration and catering to the Russian oligarchs.

Rachel is very clear in her thinking. She is not making mistakes.

Donald Trump will not skate. He should resign now and spare the country the ordeal of his downfall. But he won't because he is an egomaniac for which the more polite terms are "egocentric" or "narcissistic."

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
9. I think she is going overboard
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:32 PM
Aug 2018

Yes, tRump threw mud at them, but they are documents and even though they are fired they can still testify.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
13. They are sacrificial lambs fired or pressured out to appease Trump
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:56 PM
Aug 2018

Rep. Jim Himes mentioned a possibility that top FBI officials are deliberately allowing these removals because they ultimately will not affect ongoing Mueller investigation but provide some satisfaction to Trump in getting revenge and tarnishing their reps and letting off steam. My impression is that FBI officials are placating Trump buying time so he will not do anything more drastic that could actually interfere with Mueller investigation in the same way that Rosenstein has been providing the Repubs on the Intelligence Committee quite a lot of info, but not anything that would interfere with Mueller probe.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
16. I agree.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:05 PM
Aug 2018

When I heard Himes say that it did make sense to me. I can see them doing it for that very reason.

*Rachel was sharp and funny tonight. I love it when her staff laughs out loud from behind the camera.

canetoad

(17,160 posts)
15. I'm champing at the bit here
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:01 PM
Aug 2018

Her show is usually online at MSNBC at about 2-30 or 3pm next day (our time) and it's only noon! I'll still read all the spoilers I can get till it's up on the website. Can hardly wait!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
30. Why ... all who deign to receive His Lordship's Graces must bend the knee!?!
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:41 AM
Aug 2018

Were you not at Court?

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