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I know one thing....they shouldn't have fucked with Omarosa. (Original Post) LexVegas Aug 2018 OP
You're right about that... love it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #1
It should have been totally predictable to them. avebury Aug 2018 #2
I was caught off guard Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #20
And a porn star and her fiery attorney. nt leftyladyfrommo Aug 2018 #24
Just look at the people that he surrounds himself with. avebury Aug 2018 #44
Ha! Thought the exact same thing. They messed Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #3
The Sorcerer's Apprentice - stirring up a huge problem. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #14
Here ya go.. pangaia Aug 2018 #39
Her book sales aren't as good as she hoped Hortensis Aug 2018 #4
The book just came out today. There's no tally of sales yet. brush Aug 2018 #8
Reading it now.... HipChick Aug 2018 #9
Let me know if it's worth it . tavernier Aug 2018 #21
The publishing community knows. And don't forget Hortensis Aug 2018 #10
MSNBC said it was like 8th or 11th in best sellers as of yesterday. W_HAMILTON Aug 2018 #28
Oh, I'd be thrilled and deciding which nations we Hortensis Aug 2018 #30
Hey, forget the"...spark investigation by journalists..."! More like how she can feed Mueller.... machoneman Aug 2018 #18
Interesting thought. Woulda thought Mueller's team Hortensis Aug 2018 #35
Number 1 already justie18 Aug 2018 #27
I just downloaded it on Amazon Kindle and JanetLovesObama Aug 2018 #33
Just curious, what do you like so much about it? smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #48
She has ALWAYS had... skypilot Aug 2018 #32
"A credibility problem" ? She has tapes for chrissakes! Solomon Aug 2018 #56
If you learn more about her history, you'll understand Hortensis Aug 2018 #58
I hope she is looking over her shoulder and not taking too many mfcorey1 Aug 2018 #5
true this heaven05 Aug 2018 #23
Putin will kill anyone in his way if he can do it without drawing too much attention Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #51
No kidding! jcgoldie Aug 2018 #6
Right now she is playing the game far better then anybody on the WH. avebury Aug 2018 #46
Anything that damages Trump is good for the country and the world. dalton99a Aug 2018 #7
I'm surprised to find that she is intelligent and credible Achilleaze Aug 2018 #11
+1. Pretty damn persuasive dalton99a Aug 2018 #12
Anyone intelligent and credible is a dog (and a threat) to tRump. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #16
She reminds me of a character from PatSeg Aug 2018 #13
I think she just shot JR. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #15
Oh yes! PatSeg Aug 2018 #25
Well heaven05 Aug 2018 #17
"She brought a gun to a knife fight.." kentuck Aug 2018 #19
The first mistake was hiring her. Downhill from there. bitterross Aug 2018 #22
I hope so too but doubt it. Reportedly she saw Hortensis Aug 2018 #36
I watched her in the first season of The Apprentice. avebury Aug 2018 #47
part of me thinks this whole thing is staged Chakaconcarne Aug 2018 #26
Omarosa... Better call Avanetti world wide wally Aug 2018 #29
In the cheering crowds mainstreetonce Aug 2018 #34
Hmmmm? Achilleaze Aug 2018 #57
Maybe she can burn it down without us losing our democracy. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2018 #31
It seems she's releasing a taped conversation every day TNLib Aug 2018 #37
She knows how reality TV works dalton99a Aug 2018 #40
The enemy of my enemy is my friend! MoonRiver Aug 2018 #38
she gives me the creeps... i still have such disdain for her telling me i would have to bow down samnsara Aug 2018 #41
It's a War Between the Vile Swamp Creatures dlk Aug 2018 #42
Going by what I have gleaned over the years... Grammy23 Aug 2018 #43
Looks like it, I'm still don't trust her as far as I can throw her with a broke arm uponit7771 Aug 2018 #45
At least there are women going for his jugular. lindysalsagal Aug 2018 #49
Omarosa to tRump.... Sancho Aug 2018 #50
she reminds me of the scorpion who rides the back of the frog lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #52
More aptly, she is "The Snake." GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #54
remains to be seen - she could be doing Trump's bidding, it all smells like bait 0rganism Aug 2018 #53
It will be delicious irony if Trump DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #55
Never really a good idea to bring backstabbing frauds into your midst. Takket Aug 2018 #59

avebury

(10,952 posts)
2. It should have been totally predictable to them.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 08:46 AM
Aug 2018

But then they are not all the brightest bulbs in the tulip patch.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
20. I was caught off guard
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:08 AM
Aug 2018

I always envisioned a patriotic, straight-laced person would be Trump's undoing. Someone with a long pedigree of service to God and country.

I never envisioned a scheming, fellow reality-TV star would be his downfall.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
44. Just look at the people that he surrounds himself with.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 12:03 PM
Aug 2018

Trump has turned the WH into a snake pit. I doubt that you could find one virtuous person working there at this time. When you surround yourself with snakes and other vermin there is a good chance that you will get bit.

Forgot looking out for the best interests of this country and the people, they are too buy plotting and planning and trying to save their own skins.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. Ha! Thought the exact same thing. They messed
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 08:50 AM
Aug 2018

With the wrong person. Not only is she immensely articulate and persuasive but she's got tapes (which don't lie). He never made her "The Apprentice" title but she deserves it today.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Her book sales aren't as good as she hoped
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:00 AM
Aug 2018

in spite of all the "explosive" claims in it. She seems to have a credibility problem, and, I read, a likability problem as well.

It's possible that most of the attention she gets will be from Trump's loyal base, who will be energized, helpful rocket fuel for outrage given by her provable untruths. The effect on the rest of the conservative electorate...?

One remaining hope is that something in her book could spark investigation by journalists that turned up something big and believable before the election.

But remember, the millions who watch MSNBC, CNN, and Fox can be counted on one hand. Most of the rest of America doesn't want to hear it. Even Trump-Russia.

At this point I'm hoping it decreases conservative turnout a tad on November 6, but not really expecting.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
21. Let me know if it's worth it .
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:08 AM
Aug 2018

I’m an audible member. Also since she is doing the narration, she might vocally emphasize the parts that she feels require more attention.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. The publishing community knows. And don't forget
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:31 AM
Aug 2018

the information they get from both presales and people rushing to get a copy asap.

Sales could build in a nonstandard curve, of course. As I said, if one of her allegations triggered investigation that turned up something that got the press involved.

Don't forget, though, that these days Trump "scandals" turn up every day at a rate that can't begin to be covered before being pushed off into history by new ones. News stories that would once have been discussed for weeks are virtually forgotten overnight. And that's mostly real stuff, not questionable allegations.

If Trump camp decides this book is a useful distraction, and it could turn out to be, he'll keep it in the news. If it's hurtful, he'll provide other distractions to scroll it down.

W_HAMILTON

(7,866 posts)
28. MSNBC said it was like 8th or 11th in best sellers as of yesterday.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:22 AM
Aug 2018

I've tried to see where they are getting that sort of information from, but I assume it to be true.

In terms of sales, that seems to be pretty good to me.

EDIT: Actually found a link to the list I think they were using: https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-books-Amazon/zgbs/books?tag=viglink4210326-20

It looks like she's up to #5 on the best sellers list today.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Oh, I'd be thrilled and deciding which nations we
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 AM
Aug 2018

wanted to visit first. But it'd be a steep climb to top 3 or so.

I forgot to mention ebooks before. I wasn't paying attention, so I don't know when those became available.

Amazon now has it as #1 in "Presidents & Heads of State Biographies."

NYT has nonfiction #1 and #2 as The Russia Hoax by a Fox host and Liars, Liberals and Leakers by another Fox host. Sigh. Newman's book doesn't show up yet.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
18. Hey, forget the"...spark investigation by journalists..."! More like how she can feed Mueller....
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:04 AM
Aug 2018

...tons of salacious, meaningful, deep and criminal stuff!

GOMTW! Go Omarosa, Make Trump Weep!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Interesting thought. Woulda thought Mueller's team
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:50 AM
Aug 2018

interviewed Newman long ago. What did she tell them then, and when would then have been? She was fired some time before last Christmas.

She now says the Mueller team has contacted her and she'll turn over tapes to them. I bet she will.

justie18

(169 posts)
27. Number 1 already
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:22 AM
Aug 2018

The book was just released today and is already #1 on Amazon, Bilgraphies / Memoirs! Not exactly disappointing!

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
56. "A credibility problem" ? She has tapes for chrissakes!
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:07 PM
Aug 2018

Jeezus. Just because people hate her doesn't mean you get to ignore the evidence.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
58. If you learn more about her history, you'll understand
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:39 PM
Aug 2018

why many observers do not trust her, Solomon. Btw, "credibility" is a polite word for a years-long pattern of dishonest and unprincipled behaviors. She wanted in the swamp and did not want to leave.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
5. I hope she is looking over her shoulder and not taking too many
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:07 AM
Aug 2018

flights! You know the history of that.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
23. true this
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:12 AM
Aug 2018

Ron Brown, Paul Wellstone, conspiracy theories abound, some true, some not so true....I look at them all and until they are proved not to be a conspiracy. I keep them in mind. Those three buildings in 2001 all plummetting straight down always has me wondering how personally. But that's just me. An old man with a lot of these type of 'theories'. Want to know my favorite...?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
51. Putin will kill anyone in his way if he can do it without drawing too much attention
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:23 PM
Aug 2018

That means anybody, everybody, whatever it takes.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
6. No kidding!
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:11 AM
Aug 2018

It might roll off teflon Don, but after that Pierson takedown this morning how many people in Trump's orbit do you think are racking their brains trying to recall any fucked up shit they said when Omarosa was in the room?

avebury

(10,952 posts)
46. Right now she is playing the game far better then anybody on the WH.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 12:08 PM
Aug 2018

On the one hand she says just enough to lure some fool out into the light to deny her claim and then, with the other hand she whips out a recording that proves the fool is a fool.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
11. I'm surprised to find that she is intelligent and credible
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:37 AM
Aug 2018

Just saw her on one of the morning shows. She is keenly intelligent, and makes an effective case. No wonder republican comrade Dirty Donny* is frightened as she is exposing even more of his lies.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
16. Anyone intelligent and credible is a dog (and a threat) to tRump.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:03 AM
Aug 2018

He seems to prefer hiring people with a sordid history so he has something to hold over their heads in case they become a threat. An old mafia technique, I believe. He must have screwed up with this one.

........ ...........

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
13. She reminds me of a character from
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:59 AM
Aug 2018

Dynasty. I sure wouldn't want to be on her bad side. She is far more patient and calculating than Trump. He should be very nervous.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
17. Well
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:04 AM
Aug 2018

there is the old saying, "hell hath no fury as a woman scorned". I hope she dumps all over trump and his administration cohorts on EVERYTHING about the lowlife snakes running our country now I still don't trust her but this is repentance of sorts.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
22. The first mistake was hiring her. Downhill from there.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:10 AM
Aug 2018

I never watched The Apprentice nor Big Brother. So I don't have much to go on when it comes to Omarosa. Other than what I read here mostly. From what I do read, though, it should have been clear to them from the outset she was in it for the money and fame, just like Trump. Why they would not have stopped to think about her recording them is really beyond me.

As I understand it, the confidentiality agreements are not worth a damn when it comes to working for the federal government. I'm sure the publishing house that published her book looked at it before risking anything. So, the tapes to come are just going to get better and better.

I so hope this is keeping him up at night.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. I hope so too but doubt it. Reportedly she saw
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:07 AM
Aug 2018

little of Trump most of her time in the WH compared to many others. I'd love this book to blow up into something big before the midterms, but it seems more likely the Trump camp will use bits and pieces to distract. They don't mind mud and embarrassment. We'll see. Hope, hope.

As for confidentiality agreements, of course adherence still matters a great deal to future employers who want to hire honorable, dependable people. But this bizarre administration drew a whole criminal subculture of swamp things who creep and slither along very different paths. We've never seen anything like this!

avebury

(10,952 posts)
47. I watched her in the first season of The Apprentice.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 12:13 PM
Aug 2018

She can be an absolute total snake and anybody that turns their back on her is a total fool. She is not a team player but is out totally for herself (a female version of Trump). I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her but she is very smart, calculating, and very articulate. What she is doing now is very well planned out. She is not going to make any public claims that she does not feel like she has the goods to back her claims.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
34. In the cheering crowds
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:43 AM
Aug 2018

at his rallies,there is not one person who cares about Avenatti.
There is not one person who cares about any Dem or any credible commentator.

But these people watched the Apprentice. They know Omorosa. They love the game and she is winning right now.

Stay tuned ,this might be the kick that scores.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
41. she gives me the creeps... i still have such disdain for her telling me i would have to bow down
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:32 AM
Aug 2018

….to trump...eff her...

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
43. Going by what I have gleaned over the years...
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:45 AM
Aug 2018

Certainly not from watching The Apprentice....Omarosa is a perfect villainess. She is poised, articulate and calculating in her every move. She does nothing (and says nothing) that is not thought out and part of a bigger strategy. These are just observations and impressions , mind you. So it seems to me that from the day she set foot in the White House, she had a bigger operation planned. She knew Donald, as she likes to call him, suggesting an intimacy and familiarity obtained by being on the inside of his circle.

It is not hard to imagine that she has used her insider’s knowledge with her sense of cunning to make a master plan that she is now executing. Omarosa is no dummy. She plays the master villain to perfection. I have never liked this woman but in this instance am actually hoping her devious operation works to take tRump down. Even a little. It won’t take a whole lot of undermining to destroy any chance he has to keep a sustainable base. So even if she is not successful in destroying him, she may have enough to destabilize what he thinks is his ticket to a second term. Or his get out of jail free card.

lapfog_1

(29,204 posts)
52. she reminds me of the scorpion who rides the back of the frog
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:29 PM
Aug 2018

to get across the river.

The scorpion stings the frog midstream and they will both now die drowning and the frog says "Why did you do that?"

and the scorpion says "you knew I was a scorpion when you offered me the ride!"

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
54. More aptly, she is "The Snake."
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:55 PM
Aug 2018

"The Snake" being the subject of that idiotic fable he uses to bash immigrants, where someone takes an injured snake into their home, nurses it back to health, and it still bites them in the end. It fits here, as well. He brought in a reality show star with a dying career, gave her a job and... You knew she was a snake when you let her into your house, you asshole. Hell, you probably even taught her a lot of what she knows, dumbfuck.

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
53. remains to be seen - she could be doing Trump's bidding, it all smells like bait
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:35 PM
Aug 2018

Trump or Kelly might have canned her last year with the understanding that she would deploy unreliable, unconfirmable, or outright false information to smear him.

then Trump denies everything. news outlets get hung up on a "he said she said" smokescreen. online forums debate the spotty "evidence" she provides, right wing talk shows go straight to the "she's a fraud" angle while the "legit" news networks are tied up in figuring out what she has anyway.

and then, once the news shows are completely okay with Omarosa's story, she pulls out the rug and admits falsification. the right wing talk shows are vindicated, left wing Omarosa supporters look like idiots, Trump can tell endless variations of the story to spruce up his "fake news" rallies.

i'm not saying i have evidence that this is how things are, just that (a) it fits their MO (remember Dan Rather and the ANG memo?) and (b) there's a hell of a lot of up-side for the Trumpists if this is their plan.

what i'm saying is DON'T TAKE THE BAIT. oops, looks like it's too late.


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