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It eliminates whistle blowers......how convenient.....
Dear DU lawyers, can this be legal?
Thanks
Hong Kong Cavalier
(4,572 posts)*I am not a legal expert in any way.
Since they don't work for him, they work for the country.
But since this all is Not Normal, I fully expect them to find a court that says "Sure! They can totally do that!"
And if Kavanaugh gets on the Supreme Court...
RockRaven
(14,967 posts)But they might dupe some Trumpists into believing they are bound by them.
Initech
(100,076 posts)Abusers always try to silence the abusees.
MANative
(4,112 posts)That is to say, not at all. The purpose is to intimidate.
rsdsharp
(9,177 posts)Non compete agreements are valid and enforceable in my state so long as they are reasonable in terms of time and geographic limitations.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Indeed, he doesnt understand that HE works for the government. He thinks this is the private family business. Its always about him.
The NDAs arent worth the paper theyre written on.
MiniMe
(21,716 posts)You need a lot of $$$ to fight against tRump lawsuits, that is why so many on them are successful
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)murielm99
(30,741 posts)executive orders.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)malaise
(269,003 posts)Don the Con, Emperor of the Holy Moran Empire.
spanone
(135,833 posts)He's Shaking in his shoes......about to blow
malaise
(269,003 posts)Lock him Up!
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spanone
(135,833 posts)malaise
(269,003 posts)I even learned how to do planking - great work out to de-stress from this lunacy.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in his authoritarian corporation. Of course, the Republican caucus is full of authoritarian followers who did fit themselves to the role he demanded of them, Constitution be damned.
Someone on Joe this morning said Trump's very fragile emotionally and told an anecdote about how Secret Service agents (!) were encouraging guests at a country club to schmooze Trump up when he came in, acting as fluffers as he put it. (Unless that word has a second meaning, it must have slipped out on this morning show.)
Even a halfway honest book by any of those agents is one I'll be reading. Wonder if they ever speculate about wrestling the football from him...
Squinch
(50,949 posts)We pay them to keep him from getting killed, not to help prop up his delusional world.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in this inappropriate way because, like some congressmen who are natural authoritarian followers, they'd conformed to roles he expected of them.
Or if they had adopted of necessity a role of protecting the mental stability and balance of a president who alarmed them.
Or both?
Perceived necessity seems more likely to me, but it also seems possible that Trump could have styled who's on his detail over time to suit his authoritarian demands, the way he's styled his cabinet...
As you say, disturbing.
enough
(13,259 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)of administrations.
Golden Raisin
(4,608 posts)As a person and a supposedly successful "business executive" he has always been obsessed with employee loyalty (to him!) and his inner clock is set to "mistrust" as his default.
pwb
(11,267 posts)Appointments may be different, they serve at the will of the president
Employees are civil servants and protected but with this guy who nows?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)and therefore was exempt from the ethical guidelines for federal employees.
And Kellyanne, who was an appointee, was also under scrutiny for violating ethical guidelines for federal employees for hawking Ivanka's jewelry during an interview with her, when she was speaking for the White House.
Edited to add: Presidential appointees are considered federal employees:
https://www.oge.gov/Web/oge.nsf/Resources/Political+Appointees
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)However, I don't think it would be enforceable. Presidential appointees serve at the pleasure of the President but are not the President's employees. I can't see that an NDA can silence a government employee from whistle-blowing. The employees duty lies with the government and not the President.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Basically said that the only "non-disclosure agreements" that Federal employees sign is if they have access to classified information, and it covers classified information only.
Their first amendment rights apply to all that is not classified.
So, Sarah Huckabee Sanders was again lying when she said that the NDA that Drumpf had everyone sign was "common."
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..maybe this is why we dont hear a peep from childhood friends or relatives...