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kpete

(71,998 posts)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 08:03 AM Aug 2018

Newsweek: Donald Trump Is A 'Russian Asset' Owned By The Mafia

DONALD TRUMP IS A 'RUSSIAN ASSET' OWNED BY THE MAFIA, AUTHOR CLAIMS IN NEW BOOK

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In House of Trump, House of Putin: The Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia, veteran journalist and author Craig Unger names 59 Russians as business associates of Trump (who has claimed he has none) and follows the purported financial links between them and the Trump Organization going back decades.

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How much so-called kompromat do you believe the Russians have on Trump, how far back does it go, and what is the nature of it?
I am approaching things quite differently than looking for the pee tape. In a lot of ways, the kompromat is hiding in plain sight. I found 59 links between Trump and Russia. He said zero. I say 59. These cannot possibly be random or coincidental contacts. It evolves into something more than money laundering over time.

What is Manafort’s alleged role? What does he know about Trump?
Manafort is an incredibly crucial link to Putin’s goals. He connected Trump directly to Putin's strategic objectives. One question people are not asking: Where is the Russian mafia money coming from? In my book, I identify two pipelines. One is the Ukraine energy trade, in which Mogilevich has a gas intermediary. They get gas at low prices and resell it at market prices, and through this, they were skimming $750 million a year off the Ukraine energy trade. They were getting all that money and wanted the political wherewithal to support it. Manafort was hired to assist Putin's candidate in Ukraine. He was paid in money that he had to launder. And some of that went through a shell company, and I tie that directly to Mogilevich.

How can Manafort hurt Trump?
If he’s convicted, he can still flip. Manafort has known Trump for 30 years. He knows how the whole thing works.

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Which of your findings do you think Americans would find most shocking?
There is a Russian asset in the White House. He is an asset. I believe he is an agent, but it's hard to prove he is knowledgeable. When you look at the 59 Russians, some live in Trump Tower. The Russian mafia is a state actor, and it has direct ties to Russian intelligence, and they have been located in the home of the president of the United States!




MUCH MORE:
https://www.newsweek.com/manafort-trump-putin-russia-mafia-strzok-fbi-1076582

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Newsweek: Donald Trump Is A 'Russian Asset' Owned By The Mafia (Original Post) kpete Aug 2018 OP
OMG!!!! Chickensoup Aug 2018 #1
It is all about money. Money buys power and presitige. Some will sell their soul to achieve it. olegramps Aug 2018 #21
Let's just stipulate that he has identifiable multiple mental issues. Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #31
Many people have mental illnesses of the same types; they choose not to be evil Crash2Parties Aug 2018 #50
Yes. Newsweek even. Wow. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #44
I hope Maleria's parents phone Scarsdale Aug 2018 #2
My guess is his rich son-in-law put him in trumpft tower Merlot Aug 2018 #14
sigh 2naSalit Aug 2018 #3
Semantics: "Russia" means the government, so it's a weasel. The oligarchs are all deeply connected lindysalsagal Aug 2018 #4
Putin made him an offer he couldn't refuse. edbermac Aug 2018 #5
Meanwhile Republicans yawn LiberalLovinLug Aug 2018 #6
I think every rethug in Congress has accepted Russian money. Texin Aug 2018 #24
I think you are spot on LiberalLovinLug Aug 2018 #36
k & r Achilleaze Aug 2018 #7
Such as Rand Paul Botany Aug 2018 #8
Putin's little busboy is showing his true colors at every opportunity dalton99a Aug 2018 #17
Remember when he wanted to base himself in Trump Tower and kept slagging the WH ? OnDoutside Aug 2018 #9
Trump"s behavior alone implies that - his constant attacks on the investigation are not the Doodley Aug 2018 #10
Absolutely. colorado_ufo Aug 2018 #19
Unger wrote a similar book about the Bush/Saudi connection(s). peekaloo Aug 2018 #11
..that book was an eye opener too... Sancho Aug 2018 #16
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #12
But really what about HRC's email server? Botany Aug 2018 #13
I just downloaded this book on Kindle... Sancho Aug 2018 #15
Don't forget our friend Devin. colorado_ufo Aug 2018 #20
Trump's ONLY loyalty is to money. world wide wally Aug 2018 #18
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Aug 2018 #22
BOOM! calimary Aug 2018 #23
Russian Asshat! Racerdog1 Aug 2018 #25
It appears the MSM is inching ever closer to the truth underthematrix Aug 2018 #26
Sadly, I fear this book will largely be ignored and passed over for Omarosa's nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2018 #27
K&R for the truth! meow2u3 Aug 2018 #28
Well, alrighty then. Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #29
Kick dalton99a Aug 2018 #30
A *very* important point (,emphasis added): tblue37 Aug 2018 #32
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #33
Another book to order. barbtries Aug 2018 #34
Holy shit. NastyRiffraff Aug 2018 #35
Should have come out before the election. BadgerMom Aug 2018 #38
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #37
trump, leader(in US) heaven05 Aug 2018 #39
Every time Trump yells, "FAKE NEWS" he really means, "I plead guilty." tclambert Aug 2018 #40
Exactly. At this point he's projecting 24/7. fierywoman Aug 2018 #42
This is it. This is the key to everything. Kablooie Aug 2018 #41
Don Putinovich Trumpski cp Aug 2018 #43
Doninski Putinoff-kov Traitorskya Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #46
Just got my copy DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #45
Just saw this book at Costco... GetRidOfThem Aug 2018 #47
This makes sense because... mysteryowl Aug 2018 #48
The richer Trump got, the deeper he sank into the Russian criminal underworld dalton99a Aug 2018 #49
gee CountAllVotes Aug 2018 #51
In other news, water is wet ProfessorPlum Aug 2018 #52

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
21. It is all about money. Money buys power and presitige. Some will sell their soul to achieve it.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 10:42 AM
Aug 2018

The occupant of the White House is defined by one thing and only one $$$$$$. He has demonstrated throughout his entire life that he will do anything to get it. Cheat people, lie to them and throw them under bus if it threatens his bottom line. He is willing to collude with the most despicable people to enrich himself. He would have absolutely no hesitancy to betray his own country if he was threatened with the loss of his precious golden idol. An idol that he worships and cherishes more than his children or numerous female partners, I refrain from calling them his spouses, since that would imply that he has even a basic moral code. They have been nothing more than cheap trophies to be used for display and easily tossed to the gutter when they become tarnished and someone more useful comes along. He is the ultimate con-man without a hint of morals or compassion for this victims. .

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
31. Let's just stipulate that he has identifiable multiple mental issues.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:25 PM
Aug 2018

We can ascribe all of his manifestations to that one "condition". His moral compass is gone. Remember what they used to say about Goldwater. "In your guts, you know he's nuts."

We can stop trying to figure him out. He's nuts. And we have to stop him from destroying everything. Not just America.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
50. Many people have mental illnesses of the same types; they choose not to be evil
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 10:21 PM
Aug 2018

This in on Trump and his values - and on the GOP which could stop him and every day chooses not to do so.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
2. I hope Maleria's parents phone
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 08:25 AM
Aug 2018

has been tapped. They are involved in this mess somehow. How does a Communist who used to sell cars, afford to live in tRump Tower, and Mar-A-Lago? He is likely neck deep in this mess.

2naSalit

(86,680 posts)
3. sigh
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 08:31 AM
Aug 2018

This is f'ing hugh. This is a pretty strong argument. I need more coffee.

What a way to start the day.

lindysalsagal

(20,710 posts)
4. Semantics: "Russia" means the government, so it's a weasel. The oligarchs are all deeply connected
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 08:32 AM
Aug 2018

with putin, so, they're unofficial, but they are real.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
24. I think every rethug in Congress has accepted Russian money.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:21 AM
Aug 2018

Whether it was funneled through the NRA or directly from mobsters, I couldn't say, but their complete, seeming lack of concern, or flat out obdurate refusal to address this critical issue proves it to me. Individuals like Flake and Ryan who are leaving their seats think that by leaving a burning, foundering ship like a couple of rats is going to inoculate them from any culpability later. The fact of the matter is they took this tainted spoil and are like a jewel thief taking the swag away from a successfully completed heist. I believe they're all involved in it up to their necks. Whether any of the Dems were involved, I wouldn't say, but it seems likely that many of them too were in on this.

Doodley

(9,103 posts)
10. Trump"s behavior alone implies that - his constant attacks on the investigation are not the
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 09:18 AM
Aug 2018

Actions of an innocent man. His glowing support of Putin, while he attacks the CIA, the FBi, our allies and just about everyone else are not the actions of an innocent man.

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
11. Unger wrote a similar book about the Bush/Saudi connection(s).
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 09:20 AM
Aug 2018

and people still looked the other way.

Botany

(70,538 posts)
13. But really what about HRC's email server?
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 09:26 AM
Aug 2018

Which of your findings do you think Americans would find most shocking?
There is a Russian asset in the White House. He is an asset. I believe he is an agent, but it's hard to prove he is knowledgeable. When you look at the 59 Russians, some live in Trump Tower. The Russian mafia is a state actor, and it has direct ties to Russian intelligence, and they have been located in the home of the president of the United States!

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
15. I just downloaded this book on Kindle...
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 09:30 AM
Aug 2018

with all these books coming out, the dossier looks tame in comparison. Now we know why they are squeezing Manifort and Cohen - and before this is over the entire tRump organization may come down. We'll see...

The larger question is the repubs!!! How far into the GOP pockets does the Russian money go? NRA, trips of US politicians to Russia, and honeypot women seem to go back years. Did the Russians hack the elections with GOP help?

Unger has not been on the talk shows many times yet - maybe we'll see him more in the future.

world wide wally

(21,748 posts)
18. Trump's ONLY loyalty is to money.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 09:46 AM
Aug 2018

And he lost what he started with and he's too stupid to make more. He lost money on freaking gambling casinos as no one before him has ever done.
He had to get it from somewhere.
There is a very good reason he won't release his tax returns. Even Trump is not THAT stupid.

calimary

(81,350 posts)
23. BOOM!
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:12 AM
Aug 2018

Okay gotta say - I’ve been calling him The Asset for weeks now!

Because he IS. He just IS.

That’s.

What.

He.

IS.

Glad somebody else is finally saying it - someone with a bigger, louder megaphone and a bigger, taller podium.

donald trump IS a fucking RUSSIAN ASSET.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
29. Well, alrighty then.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:17 PM
Aug 2018

As Brian Williams says about scary news: "Sooner or later you are talking about something serious." Or: "That gets our attention."

I hope this author has some security. He appeared to many to be uncomfortable telling these things on network television. He's a scholar and a writer. Be safe!

tblue37

(65,451 posts)
32. A *very* important point (,emphasis added):
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:29 PM
Aug 2018
Semion Mogilevich. . . . is the brains behind the Russian mafia. He is worth $10 billion. He is the king of money launderers, and he is the financial genius behind many of their scams. . . . The Russian mafia fetishizes brutality. Mogilevich helped elevate it from this thuggish world of extortion to sophisticated financial scams. He lives in Moscow. He has been on the FBI Ten Most Wanted list, and one of the people on the Budapest task force investigating him was Lisa Page, who was part of Mueller’s investigation. (Page resigned from the FBI in May.)


No wonder Lisa Page freaked at the idea of Trump as president. She was part of the FBI task force on Russian money laundering, so she knew all about him. And no wonder Trump and his handlers wanted her discredited and fired or forced to resign.

barbtries

(28,805 posts)
34. Another book to order.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:37 PM
Aug 2018

I have a deep backlog at the moment. I think the next one (once I finish "The New Jim Crow" which i highly recommend) will be Rick Wilson's, but I have probably at least 10 books on the shelf all presumably worth reading.

So far the one I think everyone should read is "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump." It's so important.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
35. Holy shit.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:45 PM
Aug 2018
There is a Russian asset in the White House.


We knew some of this before, but this is digging deep.

Holy shit.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
38. Should have come out before the election.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:14 PM
Aug 2018

There was lots of pre-2016 dirt to dig up, all of it disqualifying. I’m glad the light finally is dawning on some members of the MSM, but bereft that it’s happening so late in the game.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
39. trump, leader(in US)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 02:30 PM
Aug 2018

of the Party of PUTIN and WSP/GOP. Amerika has finally put on its true predatory capitalist face(orange) and turned to Americans and our allies, that for decades have been there for us, and on that world stage said, you're getting screwed, I don't care and there is NOTHING you will be able to do about it.

Unless Mueller finds something really that will turn everyone against our orange nightmare. I know he's being precisely careful. I WANT THIS orange NIGHTMARE TO GO AWAY. I have it every day and night

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
47. Just saw this book at Costco...
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 05:53 PM
Aug 2018

...and I am $17.49 poorer, and one book richer...

(Every economist would berate me: You are not poorer, all you did was exchange currency for something that was of value to you, at least as much as the currency cost, otherwise you would not have done this!)

(I am berating myself, being a published economist...)

mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
48. This makes sense because...
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 08:05 PM
Aug 2018

there is NO chatter leaking. There is no leaking because they are all severe criminals of the mafia type.

dalton99a

(81,534 posts)
49. The richer Trump got, the deeper he sank into the Russian criminal underworld
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 08:30 PM
Aug 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/is-there-a-case-for-trump-putin-collaboration-years-before-the-campaign/2018/08/16/00578f1e-9440-11e8-80e1-00e80e1fdf43_story.html

The richer Trump got, the deeper he sank into the Russian criminal underworld, which after the fall of the Soviet Union rose up to form the ruling class, now under Putin’s control.

Unger spends much of his story connecting the dots between Trump and individual alleged Russian mobsters, such as David Bogatin, the pioneer of a gas tax scam, who bought five apartments in Trump Tower in 1984 for $6 million.

Not all the connections run so directly. One famous gangster, Semion Mogilevich, who was renowned for his talent of making dirty money look clean, looms over the entire narrative like an orchestra conductor. Mogilevich, whom FBI agents have called the “boss of bosses,” directed the expansion of the Russian mob into the United States in the early 1990s. And although there is no definitive evidence connecting him directly to Trump, according to Unger, a mountain of facts places him in Trump’s corner of the real estate business.

As Unger tells it, Trump can’t be totally unaware of the criminality surrounding him, and even if he were, that ignorance is no defense. Trump allowed himself to become compromised by Russia, years before he seriously entertained running for public office.

The men who used Trump for their illicit purposes ensnared him. “They had ensured that he was beholden to Russia’s money, and its power,” Unger writes. “All largely unseen. With deniability.”

There is abundant evidence in Unger’s book that Trump made his business infrastructure — his condos, his developments, his very name — available to criminals and oligarchs trying to hide their ill-gotten gains, whether from tax collectors, investigators or the president of Russia. And that’s a form of collusion, too. ...

But Unger is convinced that the Russians succeeded in their goal because they had a willing target, who seized on false news stories, propaganda and unflattering Democratic emails that Russia disseminated. Trump weaponized Russian disinformation without ever questioning its provenance. He even asked for more when he publicly told Russia to “find” Hillary Clinton’s personal emails.

“Given Trump’s narrow victory in states such as Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan — states that were predicted to vote Democratic but were won by Trump with a margin of less than 1 percent, and which put him over the top in the electoral college, it is more than likely that the Russian interference made the difference,” Unger writes.


CountAllVotes

(20,876 posts)
51. gee
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:11 PM
Aug 2018

Who would have ever suspected this? ME that's who!

Double agent/spy ... etc. etc. ad infinitum

Mafia? ha!



ProfessorPlum

(11,262 posts)
52. In other news, water is wet
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:34 AM
Aug 2018

No shit, Newsweek. I'm glad Unger is connecting all the dots for you, but this has been obvious for a long time now. Wakey wakey.

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