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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 10:36 AM Aug 2018

Response To Person Grieving For Friend Might Be Best Internet Comment Of All Time

https://www.good.is/articles/best-comment-ever

“Alright, here goes. I’m old. What that means is that I’ve survived (so far) and a lot of people I’ve known and loved did not. I’ve lost friends, best friends, acquaintances, co-workers, grandparents, mom, relatives, teachers, mentors, students, neighbors, and a host of other folks. I have no children, and I can’t imagine the pain it must be to lose a child. But here’s my two cents.

I wish I could say you get used to people dying. I never did. I don’t want to. It tears a hole through me whenever somebody I love dies, no matter the circumstances. But I don’t want it to “not matter”. I don’t want it to be something that just passes. My scars are a testament to the love and the relationship that I had for and with that person. And if the scar is deep, so was the love. So be it. Scars are a testament to life. Scars are a testament that I can love deeply and live deeply and be cut, or even gouged, and that I can heal and continue to live and continue to love. And the scar tissue is stronger than the original flesh ever was. Scars are a testament to life. Scars are only ugly to people who can’t see.

As for grief, you’ll find it comes in waves. When the ship is first wrecked, you’re drowning, with wreckage all around you. Everything floating around you reminds you of the beauty and the magnificence of the ship that was, and is no more. And all you can do is float. You find some piece of the wreckage and you hang on for a while. Maybe it’s some physical thing. Maybe it’s a happy memory or a photograph. Maybe it’s a person who is also floating. For a while, all you can do is float. Stay alive. In the beginning, the waves are 100 feet tall and crash over you without mercy. They come 10 seconds apart and don’t even give you time to catch your breath. All you can do is hang on and float. After a while, maybe weeks, maybe months, you’ll find the waves are still 100 feet tall, but they come further apart. When they come, they still crash all over you and wipe you out.

But in between, you can breathe, you can function. You never know what’s going to trigger the grief. It might be a song, a picture, a street intersection, the smell of a cup of coffee. It can be just about anything…and the wave comes crashing. But in between waves, there is life. Somewhere down the line, and it’s different for everybody, you find that the waves are only 80 feet tall. Or 50 feet tall. And while they still come, they come further apart. You can see them coming. An anniversary, a birthday, or Christmas, or landing at O’Hare. You can see it coming, for the most part, and prepare yourself. And when it washes over you, you know that somehow you will, again, come out the other side. Soaking wet, sputtering, still hanging on to some tiny piece of the wreckage, but you’ll come out.

Take it from an old guy. The waves never stop coming, and somehow you don’t really want them to. But you learn that you’ll survive them. And other waves will come. And you’ll survive them too. If you’re lucky, you’ll have lots of scars from lots of loves. And lots of shipwrecks.”
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Response To Person Grieving For Friend Might Be Best Internet Comment Of All Time (Original Post) Roland99 Aug 2018 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Aug 2018 #1
Thanks Polly Hennessey Aug 2018 #2
K&R genxlib Aug 2018 #3
So very beautiful, encouraging and accurate. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2018 #4
This really hit home for me, too Roland99 Aug 2018 #5
when my beloved sister in law died I carried around grief like a boulder on my back... CTyankee Aug 2018 #6
This is timely Nac Mac Feegle Aug 2018 #7
Peace to you, NMF. Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #22
..... ailsagirl Aug 2018 #29
Some truly wise words. calimary Aug 2018 #8
Or Dad is till alive. 3Hotdogs Aug 2018 #9
That could be true, but I figured that since the author described himself as "old," calimary Aug 2018 #38
This is a keeper.... Bayard Aug 2018 #10
thank you for this. lark Aug 2018 #11
Sometimes the simple truth is malaise Aug 2018 #12
Perfect. Thank you for posting it! highplainsdem Aug 2018 #13
Well expressed. Heron5 Aug 2018 #14
Oh how I loved that movie.. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #19
Thank You....So Beautiful....So Wise.. lucca18 Aug 2018 #15
Beautiful sentiments. K&R backtoblue Aug 2018 #16
Just wow Pacifist Patriot Aug 2018 #17
That is beautiful. And so true. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #18
This is so true. mountain grammy Aug 2018 #20
Well written and accurate central scrutinizer Aug 2018 #21
Grieving marieo1 Aug 2018 #23
This was in our local hospice news - shortly after my mother passed. salin Aug 2018 #24
I'm of that age when people close to you start slipping away mitch96 Aug 2018 #25
Thank you, these words soothe me. I lost my mother six years ago yesterday. FM123 Aug 2018 #26
I recently lost my husband, thank you for this. AJT Aug 2018 #27
Bookmarking. K&R. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2018 #28
Wow samplegirl Aug 2018 #30
Beautiful, thank you, Roland N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2018 #31
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #32
My thoughts and condolences to all who are grieving Roland99 Aug 2018 #33
Wow he is right about the waves..... Historic NY Aug 2018 #34
Grief is just love with nowhere to go. anniebelle Aug 2018 #35
thank you . thank you. AllaN01Bear Aug 2018 #36
That sums it up very well. Rorey Aug 2018 #37
Just saw this Bettie Aug 2018 #39

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
3. K&R
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:07 AM
Aug 2018

Beautifully said. I think expressing comforting words to someone who is grieving is the hardest thing to do well.

Usually we just get a pass for trying. In rare occasions, it can actually done well enough to help.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
5. This really hit home for me, too
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:26 AM
Aug 2018

Three years ago next month, my father-in-law passed from a massive heart attack. He’d just retired and moved in with us three months prior.

Then my father succumbed to cancer a month later.

I turned 50 the following year and mortality has been hitting me hard since.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
6. when my beloved sister in law died I carried around grief like a boulder on my back...
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:29 AM
Aug 2018

a friend suggested that I write about it so I did, every day in my journal. It took a good 3 months of constant grieving and then it dawned on me that she wouldn't want me to grieve forever. I deleted the journal from my computer file and i went forward. I was able to give a eulogy at her service. At the end I quoted the last words in the song "Bridge over Troubled Waters." When I got to the words "Sail on, Silver Girl, sail on by..." I could barely talk and had to stop and go sit down...

calimary

(81,350 posts)
8. Some truly wise words.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:37 AM
Aug 2018

This is the kind of wisdom and perspective that only comes with years.

That said, I couldn’t help noticing that the author mentioned “mom” and even “grandparents” but not “dad.” Maybe that’s what originated a lot of those scars he described.

calimary

(81,350 posts)
38. That could be true, but I figured that since the author described himself as "old,"
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 02:16 PM
Aug 2018

I assumed his dad was probably gone, too. But the more I think of it, you're probably right.

Bayard

(22,111 posts)
10. This is a keeper....
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:45 AM
Aug 2018

I've lost 3 beloved siblings and my parents. It never gets any easier, and as the author says, you don't want it to. Many scars, and the waves keep coming. In my brother's case, almost 30 years ago now. I usually don't break down sobbing at xmas now, unless I watch the happy old video's.......

lark

(23,134 posts)
11. thank you for this.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 11:49 AM
Aug 2018

I think most of us experience loss this way, I know I do. Some people just suppress everything though and feel nothing for a while, sometimes even a long time. My daughter is one of those people. After her grandmothers' death, she experienced the grief for a few days, but then pushed it down and didn't let herself feel anything about this for years. We were at her house on the 4th of July and she had probably had one too many adult beverages and was feeling great when someone said something about grandparents and she just dissolved into deep sobs of grief for her grandmother, to whom she was always very close. My best friend deals with grief this way as well. I do think that dealing with it as it arises is more healthy, though.

Heron5

(71 posts)
14. Well expressed.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 12:08 PM
Aug 2018

It reminded me of the 4:15 mark of this Torch Song Trilogy clip which helped to frame my perspective as I encountered (and still do) the waves following my partner’s passing from leukemia. Not sure about embedding videos, so I hope the link works.

https://m.




PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
18. That is beautiful. And so true.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:06 PM
Aug 2018

One of the things that makes us human is that ability to grieve, and to grieve for a long time. Even when the grief has receded, we still remember and miss those who are no longer here.

central scrutinizer

(11,652 posts)
21. Well written and accurate
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:17 PM
Aug 2018

Another good writer on grief is:

https://johnpavlovitz.com/?s=Grief

I lost my wife to pancreatic cancer a year and a half ago and am finally resurfacing a little.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
23. Grieving
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:29 PM
Aug 2018

I have had a lot of losses, too. I, of course, have lost my Mother and Father and other friends and relatives over the years but I never really accepted the finality of life on this earth. I have had to accept death in a way I have never had to before, as in the last 5 years, I have lost 2 brothers, 1 sister, a nephew (53), and a son (53). I can feel myself healing and beginning to feel alive again. It is a struggle and I thank you for sharing your own grief and struggle. Being strong doesn't help, but time does.

salin

(48,955 posts)
24. This was in our local hospice news - shortly after my mother passed.
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:31 PM
Aug 2018

It was exceptionally helpful in its descriptiveness - and I still use the wave analogy (several years later they still happen, but they are now shallow and brief.)

mitch96

(13,917 posts)
25. I'm of that age when people close to you start slipping away
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 02:12 PM
Aug 2018

I have a text file that I save all the good words to say, cause I can't find 'em when I'm grieving.. This one got copy/pasted real quick
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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
33. My thoughts and condolences to all who are grieving
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 09:32 PM
Aug 2018

The waves analogy reminds me of the ocean

Waves come in regularly and every 7th or 8th save brings in some bigger ones. Then things ebb and wane for a bit.

They never end but they can be endured

anniebelle

(899 posts)
35. Grief is just love with nowhere to go.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 09:34 AM
Aug 2018

I've lost my mother, father, brother, son and so many fubabies, sometimes I'm just lost in the memories. My only thought is I don't want to be the last man standing. My heart aches for everyone who is in the throes of mourning ~ it's such a lonely, overwhelming place to be.

AllaN01Bear

(18,287 posts)
36. thank you . thank you.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:16 AM
Aug 2018

most other people dont understand on what is going on. i lost my mom in 2004 and its 2018 and i still miss her, and yes it is painful. one of the words i hate in the english language is that horrid word closure . u dont close . how can u close on someone you love ??

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
37. That sums it up very well.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 10:25 AM
Aug 2018

My previous husband died when our kids were pretty young. Maybe about a year or two after he died, my youngest son had a very bad time because he was having a hard time remembering his dad.

It tugs at our hearts when we remember, but not remembering is just emptiness.

Bettie

(16,112 posts)
39. Just saw this
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 03:05 PM
Aug 2018

when I got up this morning, I found out that a long time friend died last night...breast cancer.

So, I saw this when I needed to. Thanks for posting.

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