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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:14 AM Aug 2018

Avenatti Says Trump Not Intelligent Enough to Debate

August 20, 2018 at 8:53 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 68 Comments

Michael Avenatti said that President Trump does not want to debate him because Trump is not “intelligent” enough, The Hill reports.

Said Avenatti: “He’s a bully and I think he doesn’t like people that punch back, and I think I would be incredibly effective against him. I don’t think he’s very quick on his feet, I don’t think he’s that intelligent and I think he’d be completely outclassed.”

CBS News: Avenatti visits New Hampshire.

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https://politicalwire.com/2018/08/20/avenatti-says-trump-not-intelligence-enough-to-debate-him/

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Avenatti Says Trump Not Intelligent Enough to Debate (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
We don't have real Presidential debates anymore allowing candidates to really confront each other hlthe2b Aug 2018 #1
They are more like Q and A sessions. I would like to see debates where candidates actually debate jalan48 Aug 2018 #14
Michael Avenatti is RIGHT..... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2018 #2
I have no doubt that's true, but the bar is very low. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #3
I think Avenatti is baiting Trump to finally say something lunatica Aug 2018 #17
Well, Hillary mopped the floor with him in their debates, but it didn't matter in the end. MANative Aug 2018 #4
Yes, I remember that NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #12
She was brilliant! When he attempted intimidate her by ominously shadowing RestoreAmerica2020 Aug 2018 #16
Once upon a time scientists went to debate Creationists... Girard442 Aug 2018 #5
Sadly, that is what it has boiled down to in the US. A spectator sport. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2018 #7
Nah. You must have not watched Avenatti against Dershowitz. And trump is no Dershowitz. brush Aug 2018 #13
I'm not really in favor of Avenatti running for President, but there is nothing I would like smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #6
He debated Hillary Clinton multiple times and looked like a complete idiot and it didn't matter oberliner Aug 2018 #8
If he runs again mainstreetonce Aug 2018 #9
Anybody who'd paid attention in their high school civics class The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #10
Hillary embarassed Trump Jspur Aug 2018 #11
Sounds like a gauntlet throw down to me. Kablooie Aug 2018 #15
HRC won all three debates Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2018 #18

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
1. We don't have real Presidential debates anymore allowing candidates to really confront each other
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:19 AM
Aug 2018

The interjection of media as questioners and moderators, as we saw so acutely with the HRC-Trump debates puts a major thumb on the scale and protects someone like Trump from really having to "debate"

But, yes, Trump wouldn't have a chance in a REAL debate with strong moderators.

jalan48

(13,867 posts)
14. They are more like Q and A sessions. I would like to see debates where candidates actually debate
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:25 AM
Aug 2018

one another as in ask each other questions on the specific topic and speak with time limits.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
2. Michael Avenatti is RIGHT.....
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:19 AM
Aug 2018

Trump would crash and burn against my 5 year old granddaughter, she is that intelligent.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
3. I have no doubt that's true, but the bar is very low.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:19 AM
Aug 2018

Avenatti is getting pretty full of himself; most DUers could probably out-debate Trump.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. I think Avenatti is baiting Trump to finally say something
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 03:24 PM
Aug 2018

about Avenatti. Trump never mentions his name or makes any reference to him or Stormy Daniels. It’s quite notable and says something about Trump.

I think Trump knows that if he gets into a twitter fight with Avenatti he’ll get his ass handed to him. Avenatti knows it too and keeps goading Trump. So far Trump isn’t daring to respond.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
4. Well, Hillary mopped the floor with him in their debates, but it didn't matter in the end.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:22 AM
Aug 2018

"No puppet, no puppet!" I'll never forget that.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. Yes, I remember that
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:11 AM
Aug 2018

Clinton beat him handily in each debate - most polls were about 2:1 in favor of Clinton after each debate.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
16. She was brilliant! When he attempted intimidate her by ominously shadowing
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 01:50 PM
Aug 2018

...her during debate, how I wished she'd have turned around and said back the fuck up! She didn't, wouldn't. This "when they to low we go high is bullshite!" Avenatti's approach... "when they go low we hit harder IS the only way to stave off the odious traitor and complicit gop.

Why Avanatti has critics is beyond me..he is out there professing democratic principles....he's young, smart, aggressive; he's an attorney and what do attorneys do..they study, know, apply..the rule of law and they fucking read! He is passionate and he cares. Que mas queres? What more do we want?

He's will take not only take the guy in WH to task but any lying republican as well. We need a fighter! There is no one in the our current democratic bullpen that Ive seen that comes out swinging, well perhaps, other than Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker. I heard someone say on Sunday news shitespin.. "that democrats can't take nailclippers to gunfight" I hadnt' heard that before--sadly funny, yet accurate statement.

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
5. Once upon a time scientists went to debate Creationists...
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:35 AM
Aug 2018

...thinking that with their command of facts and logic, they’d win easily — and got their asses handed to them. The “debates” aren’t debates. They’re exercised in playing to the crowd with snappy sound bites and applause lines. Avenatti might not do as well as he thinks.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. I'm not really in favor of Avenatti running for President, but there is nothing I would like
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:38 AM
Aug 2018

to see more than him in a debate with Cheetolini. He would wipe the floor with his ass.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. He debated Hillary Clinton multiple times and looked like a complete idiot and it didn't matter
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:50 AM
Aug 2018

He was similarly awful in all the Republican debates - which also didn't matter because the media covered all his rallies had him on their shows and gave him hours and hours of free publicity.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
10. Anybody who'd paid attention in their high school civics class
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 10:57 AM
Aug 2018

could beat Trump in a real debate, but we don't have real debates any more. We have staged events where the moderators themselves aren't very competent; the questions are superficial; and there is no meaningful opportunity for any kind of rebuttal. They're just show biz. And even at these fake debates Hillary was the clear winner in terms of actually knowing and understanding the issues, but it didn't matter to most people and probably didn't change anybody's mind.

Anyhow, if I wanted to see the floor mopped with Trump at a debate I'd choose someone like Adam Schiff, who actually knows something about government.

Jspur

(578 posts)
11. Hillary embarassed Trump
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 11:04 AM
Aug 2018

in all of the debates. Trump looked stupid and like an idiot in all of the debates versus Hillary but it didn't matter. Honestly I don't think debates matter as much as people believe anymore. Trump can look retarded in all 3 debates and people will still vote for him.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
15. Sounds like a gauntlet throw down to me.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 01:15 PM
Aug 2018

But Trump will be too much of a coward to take it.
He hasn't mentioned Avenatti even once in his tweets.
He really is scared of him.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
18. HRC won all three debates
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 03:32 PM
Aug 2018

but she didn't get help from Russians, the MSM, The Green & Libertarian Parties, and James Comey to win the Election.

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