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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:29 PM Aug 2012

Early voting if you live in a Repub county and no early voting if you live in a Democratic county?

So it's come to this? How can this even be legal in Ohio? This is so blatant it's insane.

Voting in 2004 in Ohio was a nightmare. The lines were insane and people left the polling stations by the thousands. Everything went smoothly in 2008, but because a Dem won, the Republicans in Ohio want to go back to the long lines of 2004...IN DEMOCRATIC COUNTIES ONLY.

And where the fuck is the media? The Fifteenth Amendment is being pissed on in Ohio and all the media does is shove Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian down our throats.

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Early voting if you live in a Repub county and no early voting if you live in a Democratic county? (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 OP
Link? Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #1
Here: Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #2
That can't be legal?!! ananda Aug 2012 #3
Thanks. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #7
Shoot. Voting used to be from 7 AM to 7 PM. That's hard enough for working people to get there. freshwest Aug 2012 #9
Here's another one with Rachel Maddow video: Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #4
They are using the board votes on local level Springslips Aug 2012 #5
Democracy allows the GOP to exist, yet they do everything to kill it fascisthunter Aug 2012 #6
The Ohio early voting fight explained CatWoman Aug 2012 #8
Different topic. Igel Aug 2012 #10
that's why I started another complete thread CatWoman Aug 2012 #11
The first link seems to be this one. Igel Aug 2012 #12
I'm fuming. How is this allowed? ecstatic Aug 2012 #13

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. Shoot. Voting used to be from 7 AM to 7 PM. That's hard enough for working people to get there.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:39 PM
Aug 2012

Do they have any way to mail in their ballots in order to not be restricted time wise like this? What will happen with normal voting times, not early?

I remember seeing the crowds of people even camping out overnight in 2008 to get to vote. The amount of people in the streets to vote was overwhelming. That is what it takes according to Palast after 2000, he said the GOP had rigged the systems in so many states only a huge turnout would effect the results.

That is what we need now, and what they count on not happening. I wonder what line of discouraging lies they intend to put out to depress the vote in October and November?

They've got more money than Obama, the business interests have left him since he didn't do what they wanted, and they're betting on Romney to reward 'em.

Springslips

(533 posts)
5. They are using the board votes on local level
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:59 PM
Aug 2012

And when there is a tie, it goes to our SOS, who is voting for the republicans. This can't stand up in court.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
6. Democracy allows the GOP to exist, yet they do everything to kill it
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:01 PM
Aug 2012

bunch of sociopaths...

sorry folks, but sociopaths have a larger influence on society than you want to consider. You don't need 10.... just one to manipulate the other 9... sometimes.

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
8. The Ohio early voting fight explained
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:38 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-ohio-early-voting-fight-explained/2012/08/07/742f8446-e0a5-11e1-a421-8bf0f0e5aa11_blog.html

What’s next? A District Court judge has set the date for the next hearing, which will take place on Aug. 15. And Democrats are pressing for the rule to be put on hold, even if the case is not ultimately decided before Election Day.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
10. Different topic.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:56 PM
Aug 2012

There's the "early voting on the three days before the election"--currently only military folk can vote in that window. Obama wants everybody to have that right if the military families do; I figure there's a good chance that the solution will be to allow nobody early voting on those three days.

Then there's the matter of extended hours. Local election boards can vote to extend early voting hours to weekends and nights. The state election commissioner can't mandate it (I don't think). But when local BOEs are deadlocked on the issue, the state commissioner gets a vote and has been voting "no." This has only happened in (D) counties. In (R) counties there have been no deadlocks.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
12. The first link seems to be this one.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:08 PM
Aug 2012
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/201208052259/NEWS0106/308050053

All the others seem to lead back to it. Many add information. Some delete information. Some gloss over or obscure information. Sounds bad. Might be. Might not be.

Your subject line is ambiguous. So is the subject line for the other post on the topic. On the one hand they're correct--but it's not like most (D) or (R) counties are even involved, as far as the news stories go. Just a handful of (R) counties have approved extended hours for early voting. Just a few majority (D) counties have deadlocked and had extended hours voted down. Ohio has 88 counties.

"Voted down" is an important word here. The state commissioner hasn't said "no" as the state commissioner. He's said "no" as ex officio member of the BOEs that were deadlocked, with vote only if the board's deadlocked. He just casts the final vote. So far he's only been able to cast votes that affected (D) majority areas, and he's always voted it down. If a majority (R) area deadlocks, then there'll be interesting evidence.

I doubt there's any Constitutional issue here that anybody will want to press, not at least until more than 1/10 of the counties have weighed in. After all, it's likely that in the end at least one (D) area will have early voting and at least one (R) area won't. And it's not the state stopping them. The basic hours for early voting are stipulated. There are absentee ballot provisions. And the result of the court case might mean that suddenly these urban areas--which are usually strapped for dough--will suddenly have to plan on three additional days of early voting.
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