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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:24 PM Aug 2012

Romney can't release his returns, and it's costing him

Look at the excuses Mitt has offered up:

Democrats are mean.

His tax returns are politically damaging.

It's none of "you people's" business.

He's not a business, even though he insists "corporations are people, my friend."

His stonewalling has led to significant drops in the polls.

His coments, reports about his business dealings and his stonewalling guarantees that his tax returns are going to be thoroughly inspected. If he doesn't release them soon, he'll continue to get hammered.

It's a lose-lose for Mitt.

Which brings to mind this claim by Abby Huntsman, Jon Huntsman's daughter:

In fact, according to people close to the situation, Romney would drop out of the presidential race before ever releasing further tax returns.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-huntsman/mitt-romney-tax-returns_b_1675711.html



[font color="black" size="12" face="arial"]What is Mitt hiding?[/font]






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Romney can't release his returns, and it's costing him (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
Would drop out? Seriously? Wow. freshwest Aug 2012 #1
I believe he would drop out......We will NEVER see his original tax returns for the last 10 years. yourout Aug 2012 #2
Mitt is arrogant ProSense Aug 2012 #3
Interesting that the rethugs still love him. Or at least the billionaires do. freshwest Aug 2012 #8
I believe he will drop out goclark Aug 2012 #16
Abby Huntsman's claim Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #9
I saw that on the Huffpo link and wondered if they were related. freshwest Aug 2012 #10
He's plugged in and smart, I'm not worried in the least about his safety Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #11
Thanks I worry a lot. I'm of an age when there were too many good people removed. freshwest Aug 2012 #12
This is a blood feud between the Huntsman family hifiguy Aug 2012 #14
they must be pretty bad to choose to continue going through all this. samsingh Aug 2012 #4
I bet he has... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #5
i think he has paid little to no income tax mostly due to utilizing samsingh Aug 2012 #21
True enough! discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #22
people are realizing this man stands for mitt romney and no one else spanone Aug 2012 #6
here's what I don't get FirstLight Aug 2012 #7
Ask Martha Stewart n/t jaysunb Aug 2012 #13
If her statement is based on actual sources, Romney is screwed davidpdx Aug 2012 #15
Yup, and it's ProSense Aug 2012 #17
They're (R), so xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #20
He is hiding everything that has been proposed here are things he is hiding AllyCat Aug 2012 #18
It Is What This Represents That Is The Problem DallasNE Aug 2012 #19
And now ProSense Aug 2012 #23

yourout

(7,531 posts)
2. I believe he would drop out......We will NEVER see his original tax returns for the last 10 years.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:57 PM
Aug 2012

Never going to happen.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. Mitt is arrogant
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:09 PM
Aug 2012

"I believe he would drop out......We will NEVER see his original tax returns for the last 10 years."

...with a sense of entitlement. He's used to getting what he wants. He will never drop out. He will suffer the massive loss of public trust, but he will never release his returns.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. Interesting that the rethugs still love him. Or at least the billionaires do.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:25 PM
Aug 2012

In my wicked imagination, I think that since he has money all over the world, that is part of it. Some have suggested he has made arrangements with groups, oligarchs or nations that would be illegal.

And in so doing he would have to give up so much American resources or in other terms our sovereign rights to things within our borders to other countries, that he would be run out if discovered.

Is his fealty to those nations greater than his alleged love of America or what he wants to turn it as POTUS? His ilk have a reputation of being fickle:

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.

~Thomas Jefferson

goclark

(30,404 posts)
16. I believe he will drop out
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:33 AM
Aug 2012

and I don't want that to happen.

He just keeps "putting his big foot in his mouth" and that is delightful for Obama to run against him.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
9. Abby Huntsman's claim
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:26 PM
Aug 2012

Abby is a Political Commentator and daughter of Jon Huntsman giving some credence to the rumor Jon Huntsman whispered in Reid's ear.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
10. I saw that on the Huffpo link and wondered if they were related.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:28 PM
Aug 2012

It's very likely that Huntsman is the man. Better watch out for himself, huh?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. This is a blood feud between the Huntsman family
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:04 AM
Aug 2012

and Mittwit. Kos posted something to the effect that the animosity goes back at least as far as the SLC Olympics. Huntsman Sr, who is apparently rich enough to buy and sell Mittens several times over, touted Huntsman Jr for the position that Romney weaseled himself into. The Huntsman clan was apparently not pleased, and had no baseline of affection for Mittwit even before that. Which was one of the reasons Huntsman ran in the primaries.

Romney is gonna go down, and hard.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
7. here's what I don't get
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:22 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Obviously there is already evidence that he purjured himself, why is that not grounds for investigation?

What I mean is, he said he left Bain in 99, BUT signed the SEC filings, THEN said he was not employed by Bain again when filing with the FEC - so right there, he lied to the govt in some capacity. Can't the IRS or someone else audit him? I don't get it...

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
15. If her statement is based on actual sources, Romney is screwed
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:21 AM
Aug 2012

It's hard to tell for sure whether it is or whether it is conjecture. The bad blood between the families is obvious. Huntsman got knocked out of the primaries basically when they started.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
17. Yup, and it's
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:44 AM
Aug 2012

"If her statement is based on actual sources, Romney is screwed"

...interesting that no one has attacked her for making a statement that's as damaging as Reid's.

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
18. He is hiding everything that has been proposed here are things he is hiding
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:24 AM
Aug 2012

I bet we'll find (if ever they are released):

Tax evasion
More income than disclosed
Money overseas
Felonies committed
Failing to tithe his church appropriately
Discrepancy of residence



DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
19. It Is What This Represents That Is The Problem
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:25 AM
Aug 2012

Had Romney released his tax returns during the Republican primary season the issue may have lasted 2-3 weeks but after the voters had spoken the issue would have largely died out. Now it is too late for that to ever happen. Romney has been forever defined as the "he'll do what is politically expedient at the time, with little concern for transparency" candidate and that shows up in his high negatives. It also showed up in his overseas trip where he was a non-stop gaffe machine not ready for the world stage. If Romney cannot produce when handed a script how can he produce in a debate that is unscripted or worse, govern a nation? Who would have thought that Romney, with all of his money, would be such a terrible candidate. McCain was right to pass over Romney for his VP pick even if his choice was the awful Sarah Palin.

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