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DetlefK

(16,423 posts) Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:16 PM Aug 2018

CNN: Even with just 8 out of 18, Manafort still faces up to 240 years in jail.

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Per @CNN, Paul Manafort is facing up to 240 years in prison for the 8 felony charges he was found guilty of. #ManafortVerdictWatch

240 years.

Paul Manafort is 69 years old. With good medical care, he has about 20 years left to live.

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CNN: Even with just 8 out of 18, Manafort still faces up to 240 years in jail. (Original Post) DetlefK Aug 2018 OP

He'll spend the rest of his life behind bars. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #1

I expect the mueller indictment bomb of trumps inner circle now beachbum bob Aug 2018 #3

He is not a happy camper now. triron Aug 2018 #2

Won't happen. The federal sentencing guidelines give him 8-14. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #4

"What time is it?" said Judge Ellis to Paulie when they first met. ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #10

If Trump were to pardon him in the next few days can he still Autumn Aug 2018 #5

.. Turbineguy Aug 2018 #6

Initially they had some stupid analyst outside the courtroom trying to spin that this was a partial still_one Aug 2018 #7

If he'd been acquitted on some charges they could make that argument, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #11

I don't think they could even there Ocelot because two of the guilty charges include penalties up to still_one Aug 2018 #13

Under the federal sentencing guidelines they typically aggregate the charges The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #14

good points still_one Aug 2018 #15

The year 2258, aww shucks thats not such a longtime.lol SummerSnow Aug 2018 #8

K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #9

The experts on CNN edhopper Aug 2018 #12

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)

1. He'll spend the rest of his life behind bars.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:17 PM

Aug 2018

Mueller is just getting warmed up.

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)

3. I expect the mueller indictment bomb of trumps inner circle now

Reply to bearsfootball516 (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:20 PM

Aug 2018

Stone
Kirshner
Don jr.

Trump meltdown and GOP in chaos

triron

(22,006 posts)

2. He is not a happy camper now.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:18 PM

Aug 2018

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)

4. Won't happen. The federal sentencing guidelines give him 8-14.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:21 PM

Aug 2018

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)

10. "What time is it?" said Judge Ellis to Paulie when they first met.

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:28 PM

Aug 2018

"5 to 10," said Paulie. The judge said, "That's exactly what you get."

Autumn

(45,105 posts)

5. If Trump were to pardon him in the next few days can he still

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:22 PM

Aug 2018

be tried on the 10 mistrial counts?

Turbineguy

(37,338 posts)

6. ..

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:24 PM

Aug 2018

"Then you must serve what you can!"

still_one

(92,217 posts)

7. Initially they had some stupid analyst outside the courtroom trying to spin that this was a partial

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:24 PM

Aug 2018

victory for Manafort.

As the regular panel of legal analyst came up though, it was amazing to see he change her tone, that this was no victory for Manafort

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)

11. If he'd been acquitted on some charges they could make that argument,

Reply to still_one (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:30 PM

Aug 2018

but a hung jury on some counts means only that some but not all jurors (maybe only one) thought he wasn't guilty. And he can be retried on those counts.

still_one

(92,217 posts)

13. I don't think they could even there Ocelot because two of the guilty charges include penalties up to

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:35 PM

Aug 2018

30 years each

I understand your point Ocelot between hung verses acquitted, but the impression I got when that reporter gave her initial take was that the hung jury was a partial victory, which is the opposite of what you are saying

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)

14. Under the federal sentencing guidelines they typically aggregate the charges

Reply to still_one (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 05:38 PM

Aug 2018

and don't usually give consecutive sentences, so it might not make any difference as to the total sentence. Also, the government could decide to retry him on those charges so he can't count on not being sentenced for those crimes. If it's a victory it's arguably only a technical one.