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LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:45 AM Aug 2012

5 Ways You Don't Realize Movies Are Controlling Your Brain

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-you-dont-realize-movies-are-controlling-your-brain/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=080912


So there was a mass shooting during a Batman movie and, goddamn it, it turned out the killer owned a Batman mask and called himself "The Joker." By now, several talking heads have come to the conclusion that the movie somehow triggered the massacre, or whatever. You know the game at this point -- sadly, we've seen this whole cycle play out more than once.
As always, this knee-jerk reaction by old, scared talking heads will predictably result in most of our audience scoffing and saying that movies can't influence people to do anything, because movies are make-believe and every non-crazy member of the audience knows how to separate fact from fiction.
Well, the thing is ... that is equally wrong. But not for the reason the talking heads think.


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5 Ways You Don't Realize Movies Are Controlling Your Brain (Original Post) LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 OP
I do this... dangin Aug 2012 #1
He isn't saying that advertising doesn't do the same thing. LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 #2
Where are you getting this advertising thing from? Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #7
They can't.. sendero Aug 2012 #3
Movies are stories. LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 #4
Of course they are.. sendero Aug 2012 #5
Oh, I'm not arguing for censorship. LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 #8
I would agree with you if it was only a single movie/tv show/advertisement.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #18
That was actually a very fun and interesting read! Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #6
Glad you enjoyed it. LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 #9
Everything is a story, I agree. That's how humans are wired. hunter Aug 2012 #10
We want the fairy tale. LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 #12
if it's only religious texts that force us to breed like rabbits hfojvt Aug 2012 #14
That illustrates another aspect of the problem. hunter Aug 2012 #22
Most of them are such crap. bemildred Aug 2012 #11
People love to escape. LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 #13
so much of TV today though hfojvt Aug 2012 #16
for some reason hfojvt Aug 2012 #15
Yes, I can see that there is not enough product for all the channels now. bemildred Aug 2012 #17
it seems to me that they are buying the rights to show a movie, perhaps by the month hfojvt Aug 2012 #19
Well, it is all about the money, no doubt about that. bemildred Aug 2012 #20
"Braveheart" was almost all made up? Archae Aug 2012 #21

dangin

(148 posts)
1. I do this...
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:10 AM
Aug 2012

Made my fair share of media in my career. This article explains why good advertising works. And claims it is only long format narrative tv and film. With the number of commercials out there selling fried fat and sugar water to fat, dying Americans this guy is worried about a shark purge from 30 some years ago that he doesn't cite a source for. Won't someone please think of the hammerheads?

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
2. He isn't saying that advertising doesn't do the same thing.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:28 AM
Aug 2012

He just chose to concentrate on movies and their effect on our culture. I agree that he could have used advertising to illustrate his point, but the writer chose not to approach the subject from that angle. I like the article for the way it explains how we use stories to understand our environment and history. Humans need stories to motivate themselves to act in order to accomplish things, for better or worse.

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
7. Where are you getting this advertising thing from?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:24 AM
Aug 2012

Where is the writer saying ads don't do this as well? I may have honestly missed it...

sendero

(28,552 posts)
3. They can't..
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:35 AM
Aug 2012

... unless you are schizophrenic or otherwise crazy.

The movie angle is even dumber than the gun angle.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
4. Movies are stories.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:47 AM
Aug 2012

A good (or successful) movie influences your view on a subject. How many times have you left a movie and thought, "I never thought about (x) that way before?" We don't generally think of 'influence' and 'control' in the same way, but the things or people that influence us have a certain degree of control over us. The degree of influence that someone or something has on us varies according to our mental health as well as other factors.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
5. Of course they are..
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:07 AM
Aug 2012

... and saying "make you think about something or reconsider something" is not the same as "make you do something".

A person that does something evil because he saw it in a movie was already evil or crazy and I really do not want to get into any more censorship type solutions. We already have some by requiring a person to be of a certain age to see certain material and that is enough.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
8. Oh, I'm not arguing for censorship.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:30 AM
Aug 2012

I just think we should acknowledge the influence that media has over us so that we give a little more consideration to an idea before we embrace it. Cracked is a humor site and I don't believe it's the author's intention to change any public policy with this article. It's comedy, but any good comedy makes you think a little bit about your beliefs. Examining our motivations to act, even if done in a light-hearted manner, is a good thing.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
18. I would agree with you if it was only a single movie/tv show/advertisement..
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:59 AM
Aug 2012

But very few people limit themselves that way, most Americans marinade themselves in entertainment and infotainment much of which has little to nothing to do with objective reality..

Eventually the bullshit stories we see on the screen do influence our thinking to a much greater degree than most of us realize..

hunter

(38,317 posts)
10. Everything is a story, I agree. That's how humans are wired.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:28 AM
Aug 2012

It's the best, maybe only, way to explain the insanities of our societies.

Most of us wander through a world of make-believe.

The movies are bad enough but what the bloody hell, for example, is a "free market?" Of what possible utility is a system that allows poor people to starve and destroys the natural environments we all depend upon for survival? When do we start ignoring the stories in our religious texts that tell us we should all reproduce like rabbits or locusts or algae in a pond, knowing full well that this kind of exponential population growth never ends well.


LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
12. We want the fairy tale.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:45 AM
Aug 2012

Things can't just keep going the way they are without a rude awakening in our near future. I think that is what a lot of our "prophecies" actually predict. Humankind continues on its path until it becomes unsustainable, a crisis happens, and a new paradigm emerges. There's really no "prediction" there, it's just part of the cyclical nature of life and it's the way things have always been. I suppose we'll either change or a few of us will become something else and the process will begin again.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
14. if it's only religious texts that force us to breed like rabbits
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:25 AM
Aug 2012

then what makes the rabbits do it?

hunter

(38,317 posts)
22. That illustrates another aspect of the problem.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:29 PM
Aug 2012

We are quite ordinary animals, but in our stories we are something else.

We have anthropomorphized ourselves.


bemildred

(90,061 posts)
11. Most of them are such crap.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:30 AM
Aug 2012

I got cable a couple years back, hundreds of channels, and almost all of it is the shallowest sort of tripe.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
13. People love to escape.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:48 AM
Aug 2012

It seems that the shittiest fantasy is still better than reality for most people.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
16. so much of TV today though
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:35 AM
Aug 2012

is taken up with "reality" shows. Contests and real people following what their own mean-spirited little head tells them to do, rather than what some writer puts into a script and plot. How many episodes of Surivor will there be? How about Big Brother? The Amazing Race? Wipeout? The Bachelor? Star search?

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
15. for some reason
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:31 AM
Aug 2012

I did not get the Rifleman channel.*

But you didn't like Sean of the Dead or all the TV shows about Ants?

Once I took Leonard Maltin's movie rating book and looked at his rating of all the movies I have seen. Not that I agree with all of his ratings, but as I went through the list, it made me think - I sure have watched a lot of crap.

*from an SNL skit when cable was first coming out, they mocked the idea, saying that there were so many channels that there was going to be no way to fill them all - except with specialized re-runs. That there would be a channel devoted just to re-runs of old TV shows like Rifleman.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
17. Yes, I can see that there is not enough product for all the channels now.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:54 AM
Aug 2012

My "premium" services repeat the same limited list of movies over and over again; they just twiddle the lineup ever so little now and then so that you get the illusion of novelty, but 90% or it is hero movies, debased comedies, and TV sitcom sort of things with the sort of focus on bodily functions that you expect in High School. In fact that's exactly it, it's almost all infantile.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
19. it seems to me that they are buying the rights to show a movie, perhaps by the month
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:37 PM
Aug 2012

So if they have the rights to show, say, Pretty Woman and Hook, then they are going to repeat those movies in their schedule for a month multiple times, to get the most value for it. But that's only a theory to explain all the obvious re-runs. Probably a lot of TV is for the junior high crowd. Who has more time to watch TV?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. Well, it is all about the money, no doubt about that.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 12:43 PM
Aug 2012

And those movies are wasting assets.
In fact you could argue that TV itself, the whole industry, is itself obsolescent now.
A good thing too. What a disaster it's been.
And your point about the nature of the audience is well taken.

Archae

(46,337 posts)
21. "Braveheart" was almost all made up?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:03 PM
Aug 2012

Heck. "Braveheart" is quite accurate compared to "JFK."

We have an excuse for why film-makers screw up like this on movies like Braveheart, most of the stuff it's based on is propaganda.
Historians back then were not exactly known for being accurate.

"JFK" got two facts right.
Kennedy was killed.
Clay Shaw was put on trial.
The rest of that movie was total fiction.

There is no excuse for Oliver Stone(d)'s taking so many liberties with the truth.

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