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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 01:10 AM Aug 2018

White Michigan man accused of urinating on 5-year-old black girl, calling her the N-word...


Police took a Michigan man into custody on Wednesday evening after the parents of a five-year-old a girl accused the man of urinating on their daughter.

According to the Associated Press, two 7-year-old children and a 5-year-old were in an alley near their home in Grand Rapids, Mich., when a man allegedly urinated on the youngest child and called her a racial slur. The young children told their parents who alerted the Grand Rapids police.


When the police responded, all three children gave a description of the man and confirmed that they saw a man, described as a 60-year-0ld white male, commit the heinous act, including the use of the n-word. After canvassing the area, the police identified a possible suspect, including his home address.

The suspect in question was not at home, but the police returned to the address and arrested the man without incident.

While the Grand Rapids Police Department said “[t]here were no injuries to the victim or witnesses,” Michigan Live reports that Family Services is investigating the incident and the Children’s Advocacy Center has reached out to the victim and witnesses to provide counseling.

After investigating the claim, The Root has learned that the suspect is scheduled for arraignment in court on Thursday where prosecutors will file formal charges against the suspect, if any.

https://www.theroot.com/white-man-accused-of-urinating-on-5-year-old-black-girl-1828552204?utm_medium=socialflow&utm_source=theroot_twitter
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White Michigan man accused of urinating on 5-year-old black girl, calling her the N-word... (Original Post) HipChick Aug 2018 OP
Looks like the asshat was arrested....... chillfactor Aug 2018 #1
One less Trump voter is a good thing! Initech Aug 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author chowder66 Aug 2018 #2
Well, it was apparently a man falsely accused. LisaL Aug 2018 #28
It was updated after I posted. I never said off with his head. nt chowder66 Aug 2018 #42
There will be DNA there... lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #3
"there were no injuries to the victim"? Leghorn21 Aug 2018 #4
Un-fuckin-believable!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #6
The kids lied about the man doing it, it was one of the children 4139 Aug 2018 #51
it is so hard for me to even think... demsocialist Aug 2018 #5
Another victory for Trump. dchill Aug 2018 #7
I thought, when reading this, GWC58 Aug 2018 #8
WTF... denbot Aug 2018 #10
Release his name and photo. dalton99a Aug 2018 #11
Kids made it up. cwydro Aug 2018 #39
police are ignorant KT2000 Aug 2018 #12
Sure. Confederate Jeff maxrandb Aug 2018 #19
Except the kids just made it up oberliner Aug 2018 #36
yes - but saying there was no injury KT2000 Aug 2018 #40
That is a fair point oberliner Aug 2018 #43
All it means is no one went to the hospital RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #49
Physically there wouldn't have been an injury mythology Aug 2018 #52
He's reportedly mentally ill. If so, it's not just someone being a tRump supporter Julian Englis Aug 2018 #13
"non-compliant" Sex Offender - Several convictions for criminal sexual attacks on children under 13. HipChick Aug 2018 #14
Psychotic people can do those things. n/t Julian Englis Aug 2018 #15
Except the kids made it up. cwydro Aug 2018 #41
The only difference between this guy and trump is the money. LuvLoogie Aug 2018 #22
No, meds might this guy less racist & creepy. Meds won't help tRump--he'd have to want to change. nt Julian Englis Aug 2018 #24
The children made the story up. (according to your link) Captain Stern Aug 2018 #31
Which means he exposed himself to her... lame54 Aug 2018 #16
It didn't happen oberliner Aug 2018 #35
What a genuine coward! Alwaysna Aug 2018 #17
This was horrible rusty quoin Aug 2018 #18
If someone did that to my 5 year old I WOULD BE IN JAIL. blueinredohio Aug 2018 #20
Would you have made sure to see if the story checked out first? oberliner Aug 2018 #34
I know of this man Johnny2X2X Aug 2018 #21
The whole thing was made up oberliner Aug 2018 #32
Then he needs help RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #46
The children and most likely their parents are the one that need the help MichMan Aug 2018 #54
Someone needs to back up a septic cleaning truck panader0 Aug 2018 #23
The story was made up. Thank goodness there was no lynching. nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #45
Disgusting. ck4829 Aug 2018 #25
It didn't happen. Kids made it up, targetting a mentally ill man. femmedem Aug 2018 #26
Yes they made it up, but as to the rest of your thread title... demmiblue Aug 2018 #27
Maybe targetted is too strong a word to use when talking about seven year olds femmedem Aug 2018 #48
Children made up story about white man urinating on black child: police oberliner Aug 2018 #29
"Economic anxieties" strike again Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #30
"Kids making stuff up" strikes again oberliner Aug 2018 #33
Another DUer has posted an article that says this didn't happen. pnwmom Aug 2018 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Solly Mack Aug 2018 #38
Story was a lie, please delete this post. nt USALiberal Aug 2018 #44
Evidently the kids lied... this OP should be deleted. (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2018 #47
PLEASE ... delete this thread it's UNTRUE Raine Aug 2018 #50
Wonder what type of upbringing these kids had to make up accusations like these MichMan Aug 2018 #53

Response to HipChick (Original post)

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
4. "there were no injuries to the victim"?
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 01:20 AM
Aug 2018

What the ever living fuck are you TALKING about, “NO INJURIES”

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
8. I thought, when reading this,
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 01:31 AM
Aug 2018

this would’ve been a young(er) man. Damn! 60? Same age as I am. Either he was drunk, most likely, or he has a mental issue. Either way there’s no excuse for this. NONE whatsoever!!

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
12. police are ignorant
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 01:58 AM
Aug 2018

if they think there were no injuries to the victim. Looks like DOJ needs to assist on this.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
40. yes - but saying there was no injury
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 08:28 PM
Aug 2018

before learning it was not true, reveals something about the police.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
43. That is a fair point
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 08:30 PM
Aug 2018

But this is a prime example of why it's so important to wait until all the evidence has been gathered and the criminal investigation has been completed before jumping to any conclusions, to quote the local county prosecutor.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
49. All it means is no one went to the hospital
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 12:16 AM
Aug 2018

....or was tended to by medics, for cuts bruises or scratches....

And why would they have been, considering it was bullshit....

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
52. Physically there wouldn't have been an injury
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:52 AM
Aug 2018

But does it say something about DU that so many people leaped to believe this was true and that the person must have been a Trump voter?

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
13. He's reportedly mentally ill. If so, it's not just someone being a tRump supporter
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 02:03 AM
Aug 2018

From MLive.com: Man accused of urinating on black girl, using racial slur, has mental illness, records say

A man accused of urinating on a 5-year-old girl and using a racial slur has previous sex-assault convictions and a history of mental illness, records show.

The 60-year-old man, who has been involuntarily committed to psychiatric hospitals in the past, is held in the Kent County Jail while Grand Rapids police investigate.

Once the investigation is complete, prosecutors will review findings for potential charges, Kent County Prosecutor Chris Becker said.

"The allegations are disturbing, especially because they involve a child," Becker said in a statement.


If is mentally ill and the crime is a product of his illness, under the law he needs to be hospitalized and treated. He can be under a treatment order, including hospitalized until he is no longer a danger to self or others.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
14. "non-compliant" Sex Offender - Several convictions for criminal sexual attacks on children under 13.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 02:07 AM
Aug 2018

sexual Offender that was not registering...

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
31. The children made the story up. (according to your link)
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 08:23 PM
Aug 2018

From the article:

Police said several children, all 7 or younger, were playing together sometime before 6 p.m. Wednesday when one of the children urinated on the 5-year-old girl.

Kent County prosecutors said the parents of the children, in talking with them, ultimately determined the children "concocted the story to avoid trouble."


I'm guessing they added that story to the link after you posted it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
21. I know of this man
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 07:53 AM
Aug 2018

The local news is playing up his mental illness and he is known to be erratic, but I know people who live in that neighborhood and say he’s also a known racist. This man should not be free again, he’s going to kill someone.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
23. Someone needs to back up a septic cleaning truck
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 08:24 AM
Aug 2018

to his house when he's in court and pump his living room full.
I don't buy the "no injuries" thing. That poor kid will never forget
what happened.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
26. It didn't happen. Kids made it up, targetting a mentally ill man.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 08:15 PM
Aug 2018

According to police and parents, one of the kids urinated on a girl, then they made up the story to avoid getting in trouble.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211046426

OP should delete.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
48. Maybe targetted is too strong a word to use when talking about seven year olds
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:53 PM
Aug 2018

but they blamed it on someone with a history of mental illness. https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2018/08/man_accused_of_urinating_on_bl.html

I do believe that kids even that young pick up on differences or notice if someone is a social pariah and thought their story would be more likely to be believed if they blamed it on him.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
29. Children made up story about white man urinating on black child: police
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 08:22 PM
Aug 2018
GRAND RAPIDS, MI -- A story about a white man urinating on a 5-year-old black child and calling her a racial slur was fabricated, police said.

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2018/08/children_made_up_story_about_w.html?utm_campaign=mlive_sf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social


The Root needs to pull this story immediately.

Response to HipChick (Original post)

Raine

(30,540 posts)
50. PLEASE ... delete this thread it's UNTRUE
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 04:30 AM
Aug 2018

It's not right to leave up something that was made up on the board, people who don't know pass it along and look like fools or liars.

MichMan

(11,929 posts)
53. Wonder what type of upbringing these kids had to make up accusations like these
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:09 AM
Aug 2018

5 and 7 year old children don't usually come up with these kind of vile accusations in a vacuum

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