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(85,996 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 01:31 PM Aug 2018

Giving Ms. Daniels her due

Stormy Daniels @StormyDaniels
Thank you @JillFilipovic for not only the article but for being one of the very few journalists to respect and use my preferred name.

from Jill Filipovic at NYT:

{snip}

Mr. Trump has built his image on gold-plated decadence and acts of dominance and degradation; in a sexist society, money and power continue to be the blunt masculine equivalents of the more enigmatic female sex appeal (which itself is largely measured and rewarded by men). There’s little cost to men flaunting their wealth as extravagantly as Mr. Trump has.

But for women, there is a significant cost to advertising sexual availability and expecting dollars be handed directly over. Women who monetize their attractiveness through conventional acting or modeling, like Mr. Trump’s wives, may be seen as less deserving of their resources than a man who was, like Mr. Trump, born rich, but they are generally in the clear. Younger, beautiful women who marry rich men might be princesses (“beautiful women, classy women,” per Mr. Giuliani), trophy wives or gold-diggers (“the calculating woman who refuses to sign the prenuptial agreement because she is expecting to take advantage of the poor, unsuspecting sucker she’s got in her grasp,” as Mr. Trump put it in “Trump: The Art of the Comeback”).

Women who have affairs with married men, whether those women are Ms. Daniels or Mr. Trump’s second wife, are held more culpable as seductresses than the men who, like Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani, actually broke their vows. But it’s women who cross the line from looking sexy for pay to having sex for pay, like Ms. Daniels, who face the most judgment. The men who pay for it, or pay to watch it, are generally unremarkable.

We are far from transcending the pervasive assumption that a woman’s sexual decisions are decisive of her character and her integrity. In many swaths of the country, Ms. Daniels continues to be written off as a pole-dancing Hester Prynne — a woman not to be trusted.

But the country is also watching her dogged refusal to be quiet and her unflagging insistence that she isn’t the one who should be embarrassed. We’re seeing a woman who refuses to wear either a scarlet letter or a superwoman cape, and she stands in sharp contrast to a self-aggrandizing president who may face serious consequences once this all unspools. The potential triumph of a deeply imperfect woman over a powerful man won’t exactly break a glass ceiling. But it could put a little crack in a stereotype just as tough to shatter.

read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/24/opinion/sunday/stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-feminist-hero.html

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Giving Ms. Daniels her due (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2018 OP
Thank you for posting this! GreenPartyVoter Aug 2018 #1
No Stormy Daniels, no Avenatti, no Cohen raid, no Cohen plea, no Pecker, no Weisselberg, ... dalton99a Aug 2018 #2
Not really. Let's give the DoJ even 100th of ITS due. Hortensis Aug 2018 #20
k and r and thank you for posting this! niyad Aug 2018 #3
K&R! 2naSalit Aug 2018 #4
Hester Prynne Tucker08087 Aug 2018 #5
Ms. Daniel is 100 times more an honorable person than Malania Trump. Farmer-Rick Aug 2018 #6
Trump never attacked her in his tweets because he has a "soft spot" for her world wide wally Aug 2018 #7
We may need to erect a statue to Stormy Daniels in DC aikoaiko Aug 2018 #8
It'll be a hard job. nt Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2018 #12
Malaria tRUMP jaxind Aug 2018 #9
Stephanie Clifford has more integrity and class than Benedict Donald who is rich white trash Pepsidog Aug 2018 #10
Nice post. PatrickforO Aug 2018 #11
Stormy Daniels never MontanaMama Aug 2018 #13
Really? She didn't knowingly have an affair with a married man mythology Aug 2018 #16
She had the affair but she didn't lie about it. MontanaMama Aug 2018 #17
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2018 #14
"A pole dancing Hester Prynne" Priceless! maddiemom Aug 2018 #15
SHe just may have saved us. Amaryllis Aug 2018 #18
kick bigtree Aug 2018 #19
Thanks for posting. K&R nt PunkinPi Aug 2018 #21

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Not really. Let's give the DoJ even 100th of ITS due.
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 07:50 AM
Aug 2018

After all, even a new hire at your county DA's office would know to go after Cohen when his boss is the target.

But this is the U.S. DoJ, the Mueller investigation and the FBI. The gang that can't stop shooting itself in the gut is hopelessly outmatched.

What Daniels/Avenatti did was make some information public that we wouldn't otherwise have because the Mueller investigation isn't revealing anything about this. That's all.

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
6. Ms. Daniel is 100 times more an honorable person than Malania Trump.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 02:23 PM
Aug 2018

I despise Malania, ever since she refused to hug or help the immigrant children being torn apart from their families by her husband. That she wore a cheap jacket that told the world she didn't care about the small children she was there to observe only rubbed salt into the wound.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
9. Malaria tRUMP
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 02:36 PM
Aug 2018

I couldn't stand Malaria ever since she was a birther! (Never had respect for her though even before that because of her marrying someone just for their money)!

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
11. Nice post.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 02:47 PM
Aug 2018

Stormy Daniels has nothing whatever to be ashamed of. She made herself a successful career in a tough, exploitative industry.

Trump is the fucking snake.

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
13. Stormy Daniels never
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:19 PM
Aug 2018

pretended to be anyone other than who she is. She didn’t lie, steal or cheat anybody out of anything. The article states that she might be “deeply imperfect”...who of us isn’t? I applaud her courage.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
16. Really? She didn't knowingly have an affair with a married man
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:21 PM
Aug 2018

She isn't courageous in any meaningful sense. She literally has nothing to lose and can gain a great deal of attention/money.

Just because she doesn't like Trump doesn't change who she is.

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
17. She had the affair but she didn't lie about it.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 07:56 PM
Aug 2018

I don’t applaud her having an affair by any means. The author is correct that she was deeply flawed....my point is, who isn’t?

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